October 2, 1914. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. 729 MIDLAND COUNTIES INSTITUTION OF ENGINEERS. Annual Meeting at Nottingham. The annual meeting of the Midland Counties Institu- tion of Engineers was held at the .University College, Nottingham, on Saturday last, Mr. G. J. Binns, one of the vice-presidents, being in the chair. The Chairman said that his first duty was the reverse of a pleasant one. He had to announce with deep regret the death—very suddenly—of the wife of their revered president, Mr. W. H. Hepplewhite. Under those sad circumstances Mr. Hepplewhite could not attend the meeting, and he had written conveying his thanks to the members for the assistance they had given him during his term of office. He had also enclosed a draft of the paper he had intended to read at the meet- ing on “ Substitutes for Wood Supports of the Roof in Longwall Work,” and suggested that it should be read in his absence. The council, however, thought, and he believed the members would agree, that it would be better to postpone the reading of the paper to a future meeting. He would like the meeting to join with him in a vote of condolence to Mr. Hepplewhite. It was impossible for him to exaggerate the esteem in which that gentleman was held, and there was no one to whom more heartfelt sympathy would go out. He moved that the secretary be instructed to convey to Mr. Hepplewhite and his family an expression of their sincere condolence with them in the grievous loss which they had sustained. Mr. W. E. Walker (Clifton Colliery) briefly seconded the proposition, the members showing their assent by rising. New Members. Mr. Percy W. Lewis (acting secretary) announced the election of the following :— Members.—George Creswell Bond,- civil and mining engineer, Mann’s-chambers, Nottingham; Charles Fredk. Hoyle, colliery manager, Old Brinsley, Eastwood, near Nottingham; Michael Cleeves Martyn, colliery manager, Cromer House, Mansfield; Raynor Hugh Piggford, col- liery manager, Teversal Grange, Mansfield; Jacob Wm. Spensley, consulting engineer, 29, Barton-arcade, Man- chester; Norman D. Todd, Bouchier House, Old Blackwell-, Alfreton, Derbyshire. Students.—Henry Bailey, student, The Villas, Hall End, Tamworth; Edward Barber, mining pupil, Lyon’s Croft, Ansley; Mark Strelley Fryar, student, Eastwood Collieries, Notts; Arthur Ashley Wilkins, surveyor, The Manor, Ansley, Atherstone. Election of Officers. Messrs. R. Laverick and N. D. Todd were appointed scrutineers of the ballot papers for the election of officers for the year 1914-15. They reported that the following had been duly elected :— President.—Mr. G. S. Bragge. Vice-Presidents.—Messrs. R. H. F. Hepplewhite, Major R. P. Leach, H. E. Mitton, D. N. Turner, H. O. Bishop, and B. McLaren. Councillors.—Messrs. P. Beaumont, J. Bingley, E. E. Bramall, F. Chambers, R. W. Cuthbertson, R. H. Ferens, T. G. Lees, J. Mein, G. Spencer, W. E. Walker, T. P. Barber, and H. Dennis Bayley. Annual Report. The report of the council showed a slight decrease in membership on the year, the number of members being 367, as compared with 375 last year, and 370 in the year before. The financial position showed further improve- ment, the bank balance being .£591 3s. 7d., as against £443 14s. 2d. last year, and £268 5s. 2d. in 1912. The report concluded :—“ The council wish to thank very heartily the members and firms who have so generously contributed towards the endowment fund of the Insti- tution of Mining Engineers. This institution was requested to obtain, if possible, £1,500 as its share of the fund, but the.council are pleased to report that the sum actually received amounts to £1,700, which has been handed over to the fund. The council have pleasure in recording the fact that the Greenwell medal was awarded to the president (Mr. W. H. Hepplewhite) for his paper on ‘ The Action and Control of Differently Constituted Coal Roofs.’ On the motion of Mr. Bragge, seconded by Mr. R. H. F. Hepplewhite, the report and balance-sheet were unanimously adopted. The Chairman said that he wished to mention that Mr. J. A. Longden had presented to the library of the institution a handsome set of the volumes of the Colliery Guardian from 1873 to 1904. They had been housed by the kindness of the secretary in his office at Derby, where they could be consulted by the members. The Chairman also expressed his gratification that this year the Greenwell medal had come their way. He believed that it was the first occasion on which it had been away from the North of England Institute, and he was sure that they would all agree that it had been most worthily bestowed on their retiring president. The Chairman then moved the cordial thanks of the members to Mr. W. H. Hepplewhite for the courtesy and kindness he had manifested during his tenure of office as president. Mr. G. Spencer (West Hallam), in seconding, said that Mr. Hepplewhite had shown both enthusiasm and ability in the discharge of his duties, and had set them an example which be believed they would all try to emulate. The resolution having been carried unanimously, the Chairman welcomed Mr. G. S. Bragge to the presidential chair, on taking which the new president was warmly applauded. Presidential Address. The President said that he had in the first place to thank them very heartily for the honour they had con- ferred upon him by electing him as the president of this institution. When he looked upon the names of those who had preceded him in this chair, and considered the exceptional state of affairs in the country generally, owing to the war in which they were engaged, he felt his task might be somewhat difficult, but they might rely on his doing his best, in the same way that he confidently counted on their assistance and co-operation in the efficient carrying out of the work of the institution. They were aware of what that work had chiefly consisted in the past—the reading and discussion of papers connected with their profession—but with the increased powers that would accrue to the institution as a whole, by the obtaining of a charter, and the basing of the position of its members on a more scientific plan, they anticipated an increase in its usefulness, in more ways than one. For instance, the name “ Mining Engineer ” did not, he was afraid, always mean the same thing, and -was somewhat difficult to define. He did not object to the old meaning put upon it, that it meant a person who had served an apprenticeship to a man who had previously done the same, but there was, he believed, no legal authority for this cumbersome definition, and, moreover, the insistence on it might exclude men of the highest attainments and position in the mining wTorld. He need only mention such a man as George Stephenson to illustrate what he meant. He therefore looked forward to the time when to be able to put the letters “ M.I.M.E.” (or whatever might be decided upon) after their name would be a definite hall-mark of their status. At the same time, he was an advocate of the old system of apprenticeship, either for masters or men. For one who was to he a mining engineer or colliery manager, the first year of apprentice- ship, when he mixed on terms of almost equality, or at any rate, without an official position, amongst the workmen and minor officials of the colliery, gave him an insight into the ways and feelings of those men, which'should be invaluable to him later, when he had to deal with them as a master. In those early days he also got many hints and opportunities of learning the practical work, by taking a pick and “ holing ” for an hour, or setting a prop, bar, etc., which was probably all the manual skill he might require. There seemed a tendency at the present to require that those presenting themselves for examination should have actually worked as colliers and deputies. It seemed to him undesirable that this should be carried too far. It was not essential to the success of a mining engineer or colliery manager that he should be a skilful coal getter, any more than that the editor of a newspaper should be able to set up type as well as a compositor. At the same time, there was also a disposition to ignore, as counting for “ service,” the time a candidate might have served as a “ surveyor,” and in that direction he also advocated moderation, on the ground that accurate surveying and plotting were a most essential part of a mining engineer’s qualification. He was not going to lengthen these remarks by statistics showing the magnitude of the interests of the mining industry in -which they were engaged. They could read all that in the reports of the inspectors and the technical journals; but there was another point to which he might be allowed to allude (although more connected with the com- mercial than the technical side of the industry), and in which he thought he should carry them with him. He alluded to the generous gifts made by their coal and iron firms towards the alleviation of the distress which would be caused by the war, not only by donations to the public funds, but by looking after the dependants of those workmen who had gone to the front, and keeping their places open for them when they returned. And in this recognition he would also include the weekly collections made by the workmen. As mentioned before, they wTere meeting at a time of exceptional stress and difficulty, and their best efforts would be necessary to deal with the altered conditions under which the collieries and works in their charge would have to be carried on for wTho knows howT long. Amongst these condi- tions would be shortage of staff and workmen, a failing of the supply of their usual pit timber, and generally a higher cost of materials. In this district they would also probably have to face a reduced output. Most of these difficulties they could only meet by extra care. As regards the timber question, they would in a few minutes have an opportunity of discussing this most important point. It was most dangerous, he knew, to prophesv, but remem- bering as he did the conditions after the Franco-German war, his advice would be, keep their roads in order, and be prepared for the better times which would come wThen the political tangles were straightened out. Mr. E. E. Bramall (Leicester), moving a vote of thanks to Mr. Bragge for his address, said that .that gentleman would prove a worthy successor in the line of presidents who had gone before him. Air. W. Maurice, who seconded, said that Air. Bragge was not only one of the oldest, but one of the most popular, members of the institution. He had touched in his address on a great number of interesting points, and given them plenty of food for thought. Some of those points would no doubt be developed in subsequent discussions. The resolution, having been adopted, was briefly acknowledged by Air. Bragge, -who remarked that he had been a member of the institution since 1874. Substitutes for Wooden Props. It was agreed that instead of discussing the two papers by the ex-president, the general question of sub- stitutes for wooden props should be considered. The President said that hitherto they had all’ been relying upon timber because, taking everything into consideration, it was best for their purpose. It was true that a good many trials had been made with other materials, but that had only been done to a limited extent, and in particular cases, so that it was true that timber had held the pre-eminence. Even if they could not get at present a good substitute for timber, there was no doubt that the higher price and the difficulty in obtaining supplies would lead to greater economy in its use. Anything which could be got easily and cheaply was apt to be used rather lavishly. Air. G. Spencer thought they would each agree that the question was an all-important one. If the war lasted sufficiently long both native timber and the stocks of foreign timber already in this country would be exhausted, so that if their collieries were to be worked at all some substitute would have to be found. Obviously the first question which presented itself was : What is a suitable substitute?” and they were bound to come to the conclusion that a metal substitute, as far as they could see at present, was the best, either alone or in combination with something else. One advantage accruing from the use of metal was that it would make us, as a country, what he might describe as more self-contained. There was first the labour employed in getting the ore, then the labour and fuel for smelting it, and a certain amount of labour in manu- facturing it. To employ all that labour would be far better than keeping our own people in idleness, for it w’ould help them to maintain themselves in these bad times. He thought that there was still a great deal to be learnt about the work a prop had to do in a mine. Timber had been so cheap that they had bothered them- selves very little with a consideration of the subject. What a prop had to do was to support the roof. It was impossible for it to hold up the whole country — the whole of the surface—and it had to support what he had described before as the “ local weight,” and, if possible, to prevent stones or the larger pieces of rock from falling on the men. A perfect prop should be capable, therefore, of supporting the local weight, and of giving way sufficiently to allow for the subsidence of the strata behind the coal face. An ideal prop would seem to be one with a spring so powerful as to support any ordinary weight, and yet capable of being com- pressed as much as the roof bent in that particular part. He had lately been making an experiment with a novel kind of prop. When the war broke out he foresaw that there was likely to be a scarcity of timber, and he bought a great number of second-hand tubes. Fourteen or 15 years ago they had a good number of steel props at the Afapperley Colliery—in the Kilburn seam especi- ally—and they answered very well within certain limits. It was found, unfortunately, that they were too rigid, no allowance being made for the sinking of the roof, with the result that between the supports the roof began to “ grind,” sometimes causing slight falls, which werG always inconvenient and occasionally dangerous. To overcome that they used the rolled joist, which was bent over at both ends. The bending over was all right for the top, but at the bottom, with a hard floor, it was a disadvantage. He had therefore some made with the top only bent over, and that was certainly better: but they improved the prop still further by cutting off the flanges, and leaving a sharp edge to rest on the floor. This enabled the prop to enter the floor to the extent of 6 in. or even a little more. Very few of them broke, and during the time they were in use their “ timber cost ” was better than at any other time, affording a direct proof that there was economy in their use. But the men did not like them because of the grinding of the roof. The prop with which he had just been experi- menting was a tube 3| in. in diameter, and he had a tapered plug at the bottom and’ an ordinary plug at the top, each fitting easilv into the tube. He filled the tube with sawdust—though it might seem rather laughable to make a pit prop of sawdust—and at intervals of 6 in. or 9 in. he put discs of wood to prevent the prop from buckling and to allow for the more gradual and more even compression of the sawdust. The length of the prop was 4 ft. 10 in., and when subjected to the pres- sure of a 6-ton jack the top plug was driven in II in. and the bottom one 2 in. It was put in on the 10th of the present month, and was doing splendidly. The plugs in this case were turned on a lathe, but that was not necessary, and both they and the discs could be supplied at very small cost. They could also be used in various combinations—either both of soft wood or both of hard wood, or one of each. This was an advan- tage, as no one prop in itself could meet all the con- ditions. He was satisfied that the time would come when a useful and suitable prop could be made from material which they could produce in this country, without having to go abroad for it. Air. H. O. Bishop (Ilkeston) said that other things being equal there was the question of £ s. d. He did not think that the timber question was going to be such an urgent matter as had been suggested. Some of the big timber people were making an effort to get over Canadian or .Newfoundland timber. That would cost more than Norwegian or Russian timber, but how would it compare with the cost of a prop like that described by Air. Spencer? Air. Binns pointed out that there was a difference between the cost per prop and the cost per ton. Air. Spencer replied that the first cost was everything, because metal props lasted an indefinite time. The tubes he bought were second-hand at so much per ton, but he thought there was no doubt that metal props cost less per ton of output than wooden ones.