228 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. January 31, 1913. nobody could foresee —as to how much water the pumps might have to deal with at very short notice ? One of the things that had always been said about the particular measures through which this Dover shaft was sunk was that they were exceedingly treacherous with regard to water, and that water from the heavily-watered strata met with about half-way down the shaft might have percolated down to the lower beds. The earthing of the cables of the pumps, as a consequence of the extremely difficult conditions of fixing the cables in the shaft and ensuring their perfect conductivity, was a very inte- resting application, and one which was of great interest to them all just now, when the question of earthing cables in mines had been forced upon them in such a very—should he say—arbitrary way as it had been lately. He thought that all of them, including even the authorities, had still much to learn with regard to earthing problems, and that the matter could notremain permanently in its present somewhat empirical state. The case described by Dr. Herzfeld was only an extreme instance of a not uncommon problem which many of them—or, at any rate, those who had much water to contend with in their shafts and workings—might here- after have to think a good deal about. Dr. Herzfeld, in reply to the discussion, said he was very glad to have the opportunity of giving a few explanations. He was in favour of surface condensers, if he had the money to put them in, but not so much in cases of exhaust steam installations as in those of live steam installations, because the gain in the former was not so considerable. The principal thing about a surface condenser was that they needed the best possible feed-water, and they could not get that from exhaust steam in any case, because there was always some oil, however good their oil-separator might be, so that in a mine, which generally had exhaust-steam alternators nowadays, the surface condenser had hardly the same field as in a public electricity generating station. In any case, the difference in capita! cost was considerable. They could get an ejector condenser for about half the amount. With regard to the two motors against one, it was perfectly right that the only gain in actual coal or power was the 4 per cent, efficiency, whereas the difference in power factor only tended to load the cables and alternators. But he had to deal with two old sets, the history of which he could only gather. He knew that they were promised to do more than they actually did, and he had to take the greatest possible care not to overload them. But it must not be imagined that the mine manager depended on the electrical installation only. There was a very ample margin of water-lifting power from the winding engines. Moreover, the 1,800 gallons to which he had referred were really only expected to be dealt with during the sinking of the No. 3 pit—-i.e., for a few months. Afterwards, the problem would be quite different, because they were going to a lower depth, and would probably have to put in electrical pumps at a much lower level later on. This installation was only meant to assist in the sinking of the second pit, and apart from its capacity there were always the winding engines, which were capable, in the No, 2 pit, of lifting 1,200 gallons per minute, and there was also an attachment in the sinking pit for lifting the water. As regarded the two motors, however, the saving of 12,13, or 14 per cent, in current was not the only point. Another was the reserve created by two motors as compared with one; and this proved a great boon. There had been some slight trouble, on account of the very severe conditions in the pit, to keep the installation up. One motor suffered slightly, and pumping had been done with the other motor for a considerable time, with the slightly reduced speed. He did not think it would have been necessary in this case to double the pumps too, because pumps, as a rule, from his experience, were more reliable than the motors coupled to them; and in this case they had proved excellent, although the quality of the water was very detrimental to all the working parts, for they had behaved splendidly. All the inner parts were of bronze, on account of the saline qualities of the water. To instal one generator for each pump, and to do away with any switch gear apart from the connecting link—which, of course, had to be provided for the pump, not only to meet Home Office regulations, but also for practical purposes—would do away with one great boon which the electricity gave—namely, the concentration of energy for all purposes, which must not be interfered with. Perhaps he had omitted from his paper a reference to a few other purposes which the electricity served at the colliery. There had been some underground fan-driving, workshop, and lighting and various smaller drives, and, of course, in future there would be much more, and the switchgear would have to be added later if it had not been put in right away. Replying to Mr. Chorlton, he said the capital cost of the whole installation had been very low indeed. It had to be, because the people who were controlling the mine did not intend spending more money on this thing than was absolutely necessary. That was why, in the first instance, it was not decided to make the generating station so ample that all these considerations would have fallen to the ground. It was under these special circumstances that the installation had been designed as it had. The vote of thanks was carried with heartiness, and was briefly acknowledged by Dr. Herzfeld. Compressed Air in Mines. A paper was then presented by Mr. G-. Blake Walker, which will be found on page 225. Before the meeting closed the President made reference to the proposal of the council that Mr. J. R. Robinson Wilson, H.M. inspector of mines for the Liverpool and North Wales division, should be presented with his portrait, and expressed a hope that subscrip- tions would be promptly forthcoming. Mr. Wilson was for a number of years an inspector in the York and North Midland district, and was highly esteemed. He became a member of the Midland Institute in April, 1894, he was elected a member of the council in July 1896, and president in 1906-7. He has always taken a very keen interest in the work and progress of the institute, and has done much for it in many ways. The appreciation which is felt for him is shown in the following paragraphs, from the circular issued by the council with reference to the presentation: “As inspector of mines he has shown great ability and devotion to his duties, which he has performed with due consideration of the difficulties with which the members who have the responsibility of managing collieries have to contend ; and it is a matter of regret that his official connection with the Yorkshire district has ceased. Removal, however, to a neighbouring county will not, it is believed, lessen Mr. Wilson’s interest in the future prosperity of the Midland Institute, and we shall hope to see him amongst us from time to time as far as the duties of his new office will allow.” In presenting Mr. Wilson with his portrait, the institute will be following the precedent which it set in 1892, when Mr. John Gerrard was presented with his portrait on being transferred from Yorkshire to Lancashire. British Electrical and Allied Manufacturers’ Associa- tion.—The annual meeting of this association was held on the 24th inst. The report for 1912 stated that the text of the general conditions of contract most commonly in use by engineering purchasers had been very thoroughly amended, and copies of the complete text would be available shortly. A scheme by which sub-contractors would tender direct to the purchaser had been devised, and was embodied in the cross-tendering agreement. The committee dealing with the revision of standards for electrical machinery had com- pleted its investigations on standard pressures and frequencies, high potential tests, classification of machines, rating, overloads, and heating, and the findings would shortly be presented to the Engineering Standards Com- mittee. The committee on electrical accessories would also present recommendations to the electrical accessories section of the same committee. Arrangements were on foot for the formation of a joint exhibition committee. A joint committee of the association and the Contractors’ Associa- tion was now discussing rules to govern the relations between members of the respective associations.— The annual dinner was held the same evening in the Savoy Hotel, Lord Ampthill, the president of the association, presiding over a company of about 300 members and guests. The toast of the association was proposed by Mr. Samuel Insull (president of the Commonwealth Edison Company, of Chicago), who commented upon the lack of co-operation, not only between those engaged in the manufacturing business, but also between the manufacturers of electrical apparatus and the manufacturers of energy. Progress across the Atlantic, he said, had been largely promoted by such co-operation. In responding to the toast, Mr. A. Bruce Anderson (chairman of the council) said the association had now achieved a position in which they expected to be heard, and where they had found it necessary to speak they had been heard. He referred to the hard work and tact of Mr. Dunlop, the secretary. In proposing the toast of “ British Industry,” Mr. L. Worthington Evans, M.P., spoke of the close association of capital and brains, and, alluding to the export of capital, pleaded for a closer community between those who supplied the capital for foreign undertakings, the contractors, and those who sup- plied the material. To-day there was an increasing tendency towards combinations in all departments, and they were necessary to counter the interference of the State with business. Lord Ampthill, who replied, remarked that great prosperity had a deteriorating effect upon political life, and they could no longer trust Parliament to interest itself in the maintenance of industry. What they wanted was a far-sighted promotion of British industry. Other speakers included Dr. S. Z. de Ferranti, Mr. W. Duddell, F.R.S. (president of the Institution of Electrical Engineers), Col. Sir N. J. Moore (Agent-General of Western Australia) and Mr. Hugo Hirst, SOUTH WALES INSTITUTE OF ENGINEERS. The quarterly general meeting of the South Wales Institute of Engineers was held at the institute, Cardiff, on Friday, January 24. The following were elected to the institute:—As members: J. W. Davison, Pontypridd; David Jones, Taff’s Well, Glamorgan; Herbert D. Rees, Llanelly; B. J. Scott, Cardiff; H. S. S. Scott, Pontypridd; D. S. Thomas, Loughor, Glamorgan; and J. J. Torrance, Ystalyfera, Glamorgan. As associate member : W. H. Weatherley, Cardiff. Prof. W. Galloway, F.G.S., the retiring president, stated that the council had elected Prof. A. C. Elliott, D.Sc., to succeed him in the presidential chair. In taking the chair, Prof. Elliott, who was received with enthusiasm, thanked his audience for the high honour conferred upon him. He moved a vote of thanks to his predecessor, Prof. Galloway, for the consummate ability and devotion with which he had carried out bis duties. Prof. Galloway had represented them well and worthily in times of stress—viz., when the King visited Cardiff—and had worthily sustained the traditions of the society. Principal Griffiths seconded the resolution, and said he doubted whether they could find a better union of science and industry than they had found in the late president. This, he added, was one of the greatest needs of the country. Prof. Galloway, in responding, said that they were fortunate in having as his successor a man of such great eminence as Dr. Elliott, who, perhaps, better than any other man in the Principality, represented the high- water mark of mechanical engineering science. In mining operations, he continued, mechanical appliances were becoming more and more important every day, and consequently mining engineers, members of that insti- tute, and managers ought to take every opportunity to become acquainted with the latest appliances that had been brought into use here and elsewhere. In pursuance of this object, he considered they, as well as the young members of their profession, ought to use the opportunities presented to them in this respect. It gave him the greatest pleasure to see the University College and other educational institutions in this country coming into a more and more intimate relation with the institute and similar mining institutes. Presidential Address. The President (Dr. Elliott) delivered his inaugural address. He said:— All sorts of material human effort is, as time flows on, becoming more and more dependent on mechanical power. Everything and everybody depend upon power, and power practically depends on coal, and we must now add oil. The mining records of the country began in 1854, and the figures from that date to 1863, inclusive—a period of 10 years— was, so to speak, the inadequate base from which the late Prof. Jevons, of Manchester, projected into the future, as far as 1961, his curve of probable output, for which year he obtained the enormous figure of 2,607’5 million tons. Dr. Elliott said that in 1902 he himself wrote:— Jevons, to do him the merest justice, did not pretend to forecast the output anything like so far toward as 1961; but, on the contrary, his chief point, in his own words, was that the arguments he had advanced, backed by these somewhat speculative calculations, tended to show that “We cannot long maintain our present rate of increase of consumption, that we can never advance to the higher rates of consumption supposed. But this only means that the check to our progress must become perceptible considerably within a century from the present time (1865).” Still, 1871 saw the estimate as close as possible on the mark, and to all appearances 1881 might have signalised the beginning of the decline prognosticated. In 1902 there was no indication from bis own calculations that the curve was beginning to foreshadow a maximum output even at a still distant future. Dr. Elliott said he had recently re-examined the figures of the mining records over the whole period now available, namely, from 1854 to 1911 inclu- sive—58 years. The results were somewhat startling. The curve was distinctly bent in the sense of showing an increasing rate of increase of output. There was, there- fore, still no foreshadowing of the time when the output would reach a maximum. This in a sense was satisfactory, for none of them would, in all probability, live to see a diminution of industrial activity as the result of diminished output of coal from whatever cause arising. On the other hand, the answer to that insistent and disturbful question f “ How long will the store last according to the estimate of the law now governing the output ? ” had become propor- tionately dwarfed, and as compared with the former answer of 150 years, it had been shortened to something like 100 years. No dramatic failure of their coal supply on account of sudden exhaustion could ever occur. Due to the gradual operation of physical and economic causes, and the possible appearance of some great rival, the output would probably gently attain a maximum, and then diminish, and the rate of diminution would doubtless be so proportioned that actual exhaustion would never be attained in all time.