232 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. August 2, 1918. should be put up, one always came up against one department, and that one department took care to refer those who wanted to do the work to another department. It was really very largely a matter of jealousy between different departments which made the difficulties. He thought that Mr. Evans was very conservative in putting his yield of tar at 15 gallons, because an average coal containing about 26 per cent, of volatile matter would give at least 20 tons of tar, provided the plant was working properly, whilst in certain cannels he had obtained as much as 80 gallons of tar, although only a portion of it could be used for fuel oil. About 30 of the 80 gallons could be got as suitable for fuel oil for the Navy, and there would be up to 10 per cent, spirit and small quan- tities of oil which could be used for lubricating pur- poses. The working out of the oils from low-tempera- ture plant had not yet been done in sufficient detail. Certain people claimed so much motor spirit, so much fuel oil, and so much intermediate oil, and so much paraffin wax; they were usually people who were trying to float a company, and who really did not know anything about it. He knew of cases in which the crude tar had been called oil. They could call it crude oil if they liked, but it did not follow that because they were getting 60 gallons of crude oil that they would obtain 60 gallons of oil; yet that was what they were led to believe. It was such claims by the low-temperature carbonisation people which had done such an infinite amount of harm to the possibility of the process being taken up. Reference had been made to the Barnsley plant, which was called low temperature; but if they wanted to obtain benzenoid hydrocarbons, why not start at a high temperature? Why go into it in stages? They knew perfectly well that at the gas works they could obtain benzenoid hydrocarbons without putting in low- temperature plants. He should have thought that it would give an infinite amount of trouble and quickly block up the tops of the retorts with carbon. He remembered some experiments in cracking these oils in this way, but, although it was possible to get the benzenoid hydrocarbons, the yield was very poor, and everything was blocked up with carbon. His view was that the Government should either try those retorts which had been successful on a semi-commercial scale, or else give facilities; but they did not want to do one or the other. The point was that we required these oils, and could obtain them. They 1 were very suitable as fuel oils for the Navy and for Diesel and semi-Diesel engines. Therefore, even though it was not going to pay at the present moment, plant should be put down for obtaining these oils, and there would also be the fuel in addition. Mr. E. Thompson thought the subject should be regarded from a somewhat different point of view from that adopted by the previous speakers in regard to the production of a domestic fuel. The great problem at the present time was to prevent large towns becoming covered with smoke clouds, and the damage done by smoke was so enormous that it would pay to charge very large sums per ton for smokeless domestic fuel. He had been told that coke produced from vertical retorts could be used for household pur- poses. He tried it recently on a coal fire, but the coal burned away and left the coke like so many pieces of stcne. Waste of Small Coal. The President stated that, as Dr. Armstrong had said, low-temperature carbonisation was approached by most people with considerable prejudice, and he pleaded guilty to that himself. As an old coke maker, in the days of the beehive oven, he had more than once sacked a workman for producing too big a quan- tity of black ends in his oven, and therefore they could not expect him to look kindly on the same substance when it went by the name of “ coalite.” These old prejudices were really difficult to overcome. The question of the smaller non-caking coal had been referred to. In addition to the small that was brought out of the % mine, there was an immense amount of small coal left behind. He had seen places where they loaded up their coal with in. forks and left everything less than 1J in. in the mine; and in South Wales, where Mr. Evans! came from, they were perhaps the greatest sinners in that respect. He had seen men load up all the round coal and pitch every- thing else which gave any trouble back into the goaf. In this way we were wasting an enormous quantity of exceedingly valuable coal. The authorities were afraid of the coal miners’ union, and dare not tell the coal miner that he had got to load up every- thing that was underground. The result was that millions of tons of valuable fuel were left underground and lost to the nation. This material would be ex- ceedingly well adapted to low-temperature processes. With regard to subsidence affecting plant erected in the proper place, whenever a coal mine was laid out a large pillar was left unwrought round about the shafts, and all the plant and machinery and buildings that were required for working the colliery were erected on that pillar, which was large enough to prevent any risk of surface damage affecting it. He could hardly conceive any rational engineer putting his coke ovens anywhere else than within the area protected in this way, and any structure of that kind supported on that sfiaft pillar was absolutely safe. Mr. Evans, replying to the discussion, said that the bulk and friable character of the low-temperature coke was the crux of the whole question. Knowledge of the constitution of coal was at the root of the whole subject. What was being attempted now was to standardise the product that entered the retort. If coal was carbonised in a tube at a low temperature, a structure was obtained which showed a central hole in a series of rings, fairly closely compressed at the outside, gradually increasing towards the centre, and ending in a hole there. By suitable preliminary treat- ment it was possible to get a structure which was a solid block right through the mass, without any porous centre whatever, and when our knowledge of the con- stitution of coal became greater, it would be possible to obtain that condition with practically every type of coal. One speaker had referred to motor spirit and the fact that it became gelatinous after standing. That was a problem for the oil chemists, and the treat- ment of these low-temperature tars was one that required very careful research indeed. With regard to the more recent developments mentioned by Dr. Perkin, he quite agreed that the Pringle-Richards and the Tarless Fuel Company’s processes gave good results. In many respects the fuel was non-friable, and the only point was whether these processes would work on a large scale. He was very interested to find the way in which the Government had treated the various speakers. The Government scheme of research was an excellent one on paper. The men in charge of it could not be improved upon; they were the men who would carry the scheme to a successful conclusion if anyone could, but he was very much afraid of the Government Department. To be a servant of the Government was in many cases an excellent cure for insomnia, and he would very much like to see some method of putting a little life into some of these Government departments and get them to work to- gether without jealousy. With regard to the presi- dent’s remarks concerning the shaft pillar, he was rather thinking of existing conditions at his own collieries, where practically the whole shaft pillar was occupied by buildings. There was very little room left on the pillar for a low-temperature plant, and he had no doubt that some of the older collieries in the country were in this position. In newer collieries the position would be different, but possibly if a system of hydraulic stowing were introduced, the danger of subsidence would be reduced to an absolute minimum. GEOLOGY OF THE SOUTH STAFFORD. SHIRE COAL FIELD. By J. Fox. The rocks underlying the coal seams of the Cannock Chase coal fields—and not only the Cannock Chase portions, but practically all the South Staffordshire coal fields—are supposed to have been underlain by silurian limestone. Considerable doubt was cast upon this hypothesis so far as regards the northern or Fair Oak portion of the coal field, by the work and papers of the late Mr. M. G. Cockin, of Rugeley, and the present author will try to substantiate his reasonings, with more particular relation to the conditions existing in the various parts of the South Staffordshire coal fields. Beginning at the southern end, the conditions leave no doubt about the existence of silurian measures at the floor of the coal seams in that particular part of the field. But if we travel southwards, towards Bentley and Bloxwich, on the western side of the coal field, and on towards Stubers Green and Aldridge on the eastern side of the coal field, what evidence is found, beyond that point, to prove that the silurian rocks are still the floor of the coal seams, and what effects have the large downthrows that cut the northern or Cannock Chase portion of the coal field practically in two (in a line running somewhat in a northern and southern direction) on the rocks underlying the coal seams beyond the places men- tioned ? The only item of evidence we have concerning silurian rocks existing immediately under the coal seams is in the trial shaft of the Cannock Chase Colliery Company, and this may be only a doubtful proof of what is probably supposition. If, starting some distance below the Deep coal, we try to co-relate closely the section of the No. 2 shaft of Cannock Chase, and the Fair Oak shaft of the northern part of the coal field, a very great similarity of the rocks in the two cases will be found. There is no doubt at all but that Mr. Cockin proved that the rocks found at the Fair Oak trial shaft are those of the carboniferous limestone, and not of silurian origin. Again, if the rocks found in the Cannock Chase trial shaft are silurian, it is no proof that the rocks found at Fair Oak are not carboniferous ; neither /does it prove that carboniferous limestone does not —which it most probably does — underlie all the northern portions of the Cannock Chase coal field; and if the rocks found at the Fair Oak shaft are carboniferous limestone, that in itself is not much proof of the non-existence of coal at a certain depth all round the vicinity of the Fair Oak trial shaft. Coal has been worked on three sides of this area at what may be termed close distances. There are several circumstances which appear to have been lost sight of in relation to this trial enterprise, and which might have completely altered the decisions arrived at if they had been given due consideration, viz., the position of the trial shaft in relation to other adjacent coal-bearing shafts and the direction and dimensions of faults. Another point of importance is: Have the coal measures of the Fair Oak district suffered such an amount of denudation as to wash away all the coal measures down to the carboniferous limestone in this area, or did any denudation take place at all in this particular situation and period? From data and facts obtained, and other geological observations in this district, everything points to the theory that no large (if any) denudation took place at the particular period in question. The facts and circumstances, as they appear to-day, in the near vicinity of such supposed denudation could not have remained so had the denudations been so extensive as has been supposed by various authorities. Thus, a little towards the south-west of this trial shaft which is supposed to have proved the denudation, it is found that the Deep, Shallow, and Bass coal seams are in their usual order, and comparatively close to the surface, the Deep seam lying not more than 140 yards from the surface; whilst a little further away in the same direction we get into proved ground, and find not only the Deep, Shallow, and Bass seams, but also, on the top of these the Yard coal and four other seams of workable coal. If the assumed denudation had taken place and destroyed all the seams and rocks down to the carboniferous limestone at the Fair Oak trial shaft, how did the Deep, Shallow, and Bass seams, so near by, and at the same time so near the surface, remain intact? ' The present evidence, both from the trial shaft and the geological indications, goes to prove that if a denudation did take place at that time it could only have been on a small scale, and could not have denuded any seams of coal except some that existed a few yards under the surface. But, in some period since that supposed denudation, there is ample proof of a denudation which washed away the seams that should have overlain the Deep, Shallow, and Bass seams of the Fair Oak drawing shaft. This can be proved from indications, sections, etc. If the Fair Oak trial shaft had been sunk else- where than at its present site, the carboniferous lime- stone would not have been found till at least the best seams of the Cannock Chase coal field had been traversed intact and at easy working depths. The appended data show the various strata at the Brindley Heath, Fair Oak drawing and trial, and Brereton shafts. Brindley Heath Shaft. Yards. 0-92.—Red measures. 116. —Five feet. 122.—Eight feet. 167.—Park. 218.—Hatherton Main. 220. —Sea level. 259.—Yard coal. 284.—Bass. 303.—Top Shallow. 321.—Shallow. 327. —Deep coal. 346.—Deep coal. Fair Oak Drawing Shaft. (2,200 yards from Brindley Heath Shaft.) Yards. 0-40.—Red measures. 47.—Blue binds. 53.—Rock binds. 77. —Bass coal, 7 ft. 10 in. 92.—New Shallows, 5 ft. 6 in. 104.—Shallow coal, 9 ft. 117. —Deep coal, 3 ft. 2 in. 122. —Deep coal, 3 ft. 10 in. 131.—Rock and shale. 200.—Sea level. Fair Oak Trial Shaft. (900 yards from Fair Oak Drawing Shaft.) Yards. 0-180.—Red measures. 20.—Variegated sandstone. 30.—Consolidated clunch. 40.—Yellow pebbly sandstone. 55.—Cons, sand with lead. 60.—Grey sandstone. 100.—White marl. 110.—Red marl and ironstone balls. 141.—Smutty coal. 150.—Variegated sandstone. 160. —Red and white rock. 163.—Purple marl. 171.—Blue binds and ironstone balls. 180.—Sea level. 180.—Dark blue binds. 192.—Coal 1| in. 200.—Stone binds. 221. —Fireclay. (Fault here rising towards the north-west.) 231.—Binds. 240.—Fireclay. 255.—Peldon. 266.—Strong binds and ironstones. 273.—Bottom of shaft. [273-328.—Borehole. ] 280.—Grey stone binds. 284.—Red sandstone. 290.—Dark binds. 305.—Red variegated rock. 320.—Red and grey rock. 328. —Red rock, marl partings and salt water. Brereton Shaft. (Distance from Fair Oak Trial Shaft not taken.) • Yards. 0-33.—Red Measures. 35.—Four feet seam. 45.—Two feet ,, 57.—Two feet ,, 60.—Three feet ,, 76.—Four feet ,, 78. —Nine feet ,, 95.—Four feet or Bass seam. 123. —Top Shallow. 133.—Sea Level. 140.—Shallow coal. 158.—Deep ,, 161. —Deep ,, 175.—Two feet seam. 215.t—Mealy grey, 4 ft. thick. Coal Production of the Ukraine.—The greatest coal mining region of Russia is situated on the Donetz River, north of the Sea of Azof. In 1914 the coal output had risen to 22,932,700 tons per annum. The iron ore of the district contains up to 40 per cent, of metallic iron, and the largest works were founded with English capital at Jusow. The richest iron ore mines are near Krivoi-Rog, in the watershed of the Ingulez, the southern branch of the Dnieper. This ore contains up to 60 per cent, of metallic iron. In the year 1912 the production of iron ore from all the mines in both European and Asiatic Russia was 6,363,166 tons.