July 26, 1918. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. 175 Delivery, 17 tons 10 cwt. in 1 hour, 11,100 cu. ft. of free air used. Delivery, 11 tons 14 cwt. in 1 hour, 10,550 cu. ft. of free air used. Delivery, nil, conveyor working 7,920 cu. ft. of free air used. From the above figures it will be seen that power costs run very high on conveying where the quantity of coal produced is low, so that it is of the greatest importance to see that haulage arrangements are good, in order that the maximum output be obtained. The length of each conveyor face is about 160 yards, and the total length of the face is 1,300 yards. The straightening of the faces has improved the roof con- siderably and given a more even roof pressure, inas- much that during the last few months fully 90 per cent, of the timber has been withdrawn from the gobs. The greater part of this timber is unbroken, and can be used again. It is considered a great benefit to remove this timber systematically and allow the roof to fall, and so relieve the pressure of the face. Stowing. No rubbish is ever sent out of the pit; the whole of the material from the making of the arches at the pit bottom has all been stowed in the faces, and yet there is insufficient rubbish to stow the faces. A system of packs to protect the road, as used in the Midlands, allowed of a better control of the roof than if the face were filled. It is a distinct advantage to not fully pack the face, and the withdrawal of all timber in the gobs is an end which is most desirable to accomplish in all cases. The main principles to be followed if timber is to be successfully withdrawn are: — 1. The faces must be kept in a perfectly straight line. 2. All props must be withdrawn systematically, row by row, as the new row is put in. 3. Heavier props should be put in where they are being withdrawn. 4. The first few rows of props are the most difficult to draw. 5. If the face come in, it must be tried again, for the fall will have relieved the pressure and will make it easier to accomplish. Since the timber has been withdrawn at Britannia, much less trouble has been experienced with the roof. Previously it was quite a common thing to have a conveyor face stopped with a fall, but it is now a rare occurrence, although the colliery is only working 75 per cent, time, owing to shortage of wagons. One of the greatest difficulties of the conveyor system is to give adequate clearance. For a large output a double road must be kept at the conveyor end; and at Britannia, at the commencement, a double width road was carried on with the faces as they advanced; this was not only very costly to make, but the maintenance of these very wide roads at a depth of 730 yards was a very heavy item. Various methods were tried to overcome this difficulty, and eventually the following arrangement was adopted. Two single roads had been driven, 10 yards apart, instead of one double road, and a conveyor is used in the top road, to bring the coal back to the cross- cut, where it discharges into the tram; the empties are brought in through the top road, and are filled under the conveyor, gravitated through the cross-cut to the lower road, where they are taken away by the rope. When the gate conveyor becomes too long it will be cut off by another cross-cut and a new loading- place arranged there, the haulage, of course, being extended and the outer cross-cut done away with. One of the advantages of the shaking conveyor over other types is that rubbish can be brought into the face with it, which is difficult with other types. A thrower-off is used, which is simply a plough throwing it off on the gob side at a desired point. In order to deal with the larger quantities of rubbish, which were produced in the making of the pit bottom, some expeditious method of dealing with it had to be devised. A very light tip plate was used for tipping the rubbish on to the conveyor. It has not been possible to get enough angle for the whole of the material to run out on opening the tram door; but this is not desirable,, as it would overload the conveyor. After the door has been opened, the rubbish is raked out, thus regulating the quantity. In many cases conveyors have been put in for transporting rubbish to the face conveyor to facilitate the disposal of rubbish from certain points. These conveyors generally lead from a double parting to avoid handling trams a great distance. As many as 60 trams of rubbish are tipped in a shift at one conveyor face. With regard to safety of working on the conveyor system, experience over ten years has proved that there are less accidents in conveyor faces than in ordi- nary stall work, and this is attributed to better super- vision and systematic timbering. The line of face which should be adopted will depend on the seam and the roof over it. At Britannia the faces are about half-course on the back or the face, as the case may be, and generally this will be found to be the best line where the roof is tender. Action Concerning Subsidence and Flooding.—From Monday to Friday, July 8-12, Mr. R. Lawrence, K.C., sitting as the deputy of the Chancellor in the Chancery Court for the County Palatine of Lancaster at Liverpool, was engaged in hearing an action relating to subsidence due to underground working. The plaintiff was William Woods, pottery and tile merchant, Sutton Oak, St. Helens, and the defendants were Messrs. Bromilow Foster and Company, colliery owners. It was explained that opera- tions in the defendant’s collieries so altered the course of Sutton Brook as to cause serious flooding of the plaintiff’s property. The deeds showed that defendants had the right to work the mines directly under Mr. Woods’ plot of land without responsibility for damage caused to the surface, and the point now at issue was whether the rights possessed by defendants exonerated them from liability regarding the diversion of the brook and the con- sequent flooding. His Honour reserved judgment. CO-PARTNERSHIP. At the annual meeting of the Society of Chemical Industry in Bristol, on June 17, Mr. E. Walls opened a discussion on Co-partnership. After recounting some of the well-known principles of co-partnership, he said that our present wages system was not so much an evolved system as a patched-up one. Co- partnership started from an entirely different point of view. From the political standpoint it considered industry as made for man, and not man for industry, and on the scientific side it attempted to find a rational formula for the division of the product of the industry. Many considered this the sole, as it was the prime, function of co-partnership, and that a better name for it would be Profit Sharing. In devising profit-sharing schemes, the gross earnings of an industry were taken, and out of them were ear-marked wages on labour and interest on capital. The standard interest on capital was fixed by well- known laws, and the standard wage on labour could be similarly fixed in a scientific way by calculating at any given time the money equivalent for a fixed standard of living based on the index price of com- modities. These two items should constitute prior charges on every industrial undertaking. Further, in every well-managed business there were other prior charges for repairs of plant and buildings, depreciation, and reserve for equalisation purposes, and these charges were necessary for the protection of capital, which otherwise would be constantly dissipated and lost. In the same way labour should be protected, and there should be—corresponding, to repairs, reserve, etc.— a labour reserve for illness o$ invalidity and old age. Further, just as the general reserve carried a business through difficult times and equalised dividends, so on the labour side there should be a general reserve ear-marked for providing for the workers being out of employment. There then remained the manner in which the residuum would be dealt with. In that case the Excess Profits tax might be applied and sums returned to the State in such a way as to ensure their ultimate return to the consumer by way of reduction in the price of food staples, which would probably be controlled by the State in the future as they now were. After tracing brief v the history of the earlier efforts at co-partnership, Mr. Walls outlined the well- known features of the South Metropolitan Gas Com- pany’s scheme. The Gas Company, he said, were favourably situated in many ways for practising co- partnership, because the profits rose or fell according to the price of gas. In the case of the South Metro- politan Company there was a standard price of 3s. Id. per 1,000 cu. ft., and a 4 per cent, standard dividend on capital. For every penny reduction in the price of gas the shareholders got 2s. 8d. per cent, more dividend. The labour co-partners at the same time got three-quarters per cent, on their wages. Thus in 1912, when the company’s price was 2$. 2d., the share- holders received £5 9s. 4d. per cent, dividend, and the labour co-partners 5 per cent, on their wages. The position during the second half of 1917 was different, because, owing to increasing war costs, the price of gas had to be raised to 3s. Id., so that there was no bonus for the partners. Dr. Carpenter had stated that labour had accepted the situation without demur. The Gas Company’s was a model scheme which in a definite ratio benefited the consumer, the shareholder, and labour. About £750,000 had been paid out to the labour co-partners, and the employees held over £380,000 of the company’s ordinary stock. That was approximately 5 per cent, on wages, and just orer 1 pei' cent, on capital above the minimum rate of dividend. He put forward co-partnership as a.positive scheme based on the existing industrial structure of private enterprise—a scientific attempt at equitable distribution of the profits of industry. What co- partnership needed for its complete success was the accession of 100 well-authenticated schemes on a large scale. Dr. Charles Carpenter said that the best way in which the chemical industry could approach this sub- ject was to remember that after the war they would reap none of the benefits from it unless they could be certain that labour would take up an attitude different from that which actuated it to-day. Sir George Livesey twenty-nine years ago had described the existing condition of affairs as one in which the worker endeavoured to do as little as he possibly could and get as much as he possibly could for it. Unless the public Press lied very much, that expressed to a large extent the attitude to-day. The object of maintaining a great proportion of the staff in any works was to increase the output, but nothing what- ever was’done to instruct or educate the average worker. The result was that after he left school, where he obtained a very frail foundation, there was only one type of leader at whose feet he sat, and that was the Socialist agitator. Nobody else took any trouble to instruct him as to what the real basis of industry consisted of. Co-partnership educated the worker into a knowledge of the principles upon which industry should be conducted. By it the worker was taught what the masters themselves had to learn. Having educated the worker on those principles, they found that he was not very different from other people in other circles of life. Another aspect of co-partnership, which was a most important one, was that it gave the worker an opportunity of seeing something else in the future than what might be described as broken- down old age. It gave him an opportunity of work- ing independently of those clubs and organisations to which most of the workpeople had been driven, and of making some provision for the time when he would no longer be able to earn a livelihood. In that respect there was something to be said in favour of what had been described as the Gas Company’s systems, because what happened was that, having arrived at the amount of bonus to which the man was entitled, he was allo- cated ordinary stock of the company. That was pre- cisely the same stock which all the shareholders, from the director down, held; and when the man left the service of the company he took it away with him. If he died it became his wife’s property, and it was handed on to his children. It was his property in the real sense of the word, and was as inalienable as property should be. That was an important point, because a suggestion was made sometimes that work- men were driven in these matters, and not led. It was perfectly true that in building up systems of co-partnership it was necessary to get over one of the initial difficulties, namely, that as soon as a worker who had never been accustomed to anything but his wages got something in the way of a bonus, he almost invariably very quickly spent it. There was no doubt whatever that a great many of the schemes had come to grief because instead of the money being properly used it was wasted, and instead of the workman being better off for it he was worse off. Therefore there was an advantage in making it inconvenient for the worker to get rid of his stock as long as he continued in the particular employment of which he was a profit sharer or co-partner; otherwise the share which he had obtained was absolutely his own property. The original idea was that one-half of the bonus should be invested in permanent stock, and the other half invested, So that the investor could, supposing he fell on troublesome times, draw upon that fund for temporary assistance; but in practice the great bulk of the fund was invested in the same way as the other half. The most interesting point was the effect of the system on labour. There had been opportunities of making a direct comparison between labour output with and without co-partnership, paying the same rate and wages and using identical machinery, and then it had been found that there was a great advantage to the credit of co-partnership workers. Then, with regard to what he might call the 12| per cent, disease which was running through the whole of the land, it had been pointed out that the gas companies at the present time had no profit to divide, and the work- men were getting no bonus, but only the ordinary wage applicable to the industry. In connection with the 12J per cent, award, the co-partners approached their committee, and after discussing the question of the 12J per cent, award, the men decided that the con- ditions of the company did not warrant their pressing for the award. Here were some thousands of men who were content to carry on their work and accept what was in effect a lower rate and wage than that which was customary in the district. That surely was a very remarkable example of how working men trained in co-partnership would look at the question from both sides. When he had told the men that he thought they had come to a very patriotic decision, they said they were not thinking so much of them- selves; what they wanted to do was to get the com- pany right so that it would be ready for their mates when they came back from the front. Another point was the much debated one on the value of having working men on the board of management. It was said that they were quite out of place there, and it was asked what they could do. The men themselves would be the first to say that the great bulk of business carried on round the board table was quite beyond them, but there were many matters appertaining to the conditions of employment and work generally where the advice and counsel of the men was extremely valuable. There was also the. advantage that the working men knew they were directly represented on the managing body. A parallel case was Parliament. Could it be imagined that the working man should be excluded from Parliament? A very good case was that of Mr. Clynes, the Food Controller. He was a man with the ability who had found his opportunity. A business was like Parliament on a very much smaller scale, and what was an advantage in one case could not be proved to be a disadvantage in the other. After an experience of many years, he would be sorry to depart from the principles practised by the South Metro- politan Company. The future of industry depended on how labour could be educated to take its share in the management, and if they took the same pains in getting the maximum yield from humanity as from brains, he was sure they would get as valuable a result from it. The South Metropolitan Gas Company had a combing-out committee of the workmen, which had dealt with 2,000 cases in the various works and had come to decisions, quite apart from the cast-iron regulations issued by the authorities, as to whether men were or were not indispensable, and in that way hundreds of men had been released for the Army who would otherwise have been going on as if there were no war. Another instance was that at the time of the Boer War, when the allowances to the dependants of soldiers who had been killed or who had died in the war were very miserable, the co-partners took upon themselves the problem of making allowances to the widows and dependent children, so that the latter could be brought up until they reached the age of 16. It was only about the time that the present war broke out that the last of these responsibilities ceased. Now they had done precisely the same thing in the present case, and although there were many hundreds of cases, they were being dealt with through com- mittees individually which were granting from 2s. 6d. to 15s. per week, in accordance with the requirements of the case, and the fund had been reported to him as having passed £100,000 a short time ago. Mr. W. D. A. Bost said that before co-partnership schemes could be worked out, it was necessary to arrive at a minimum wage for the lowest paid worker. The President said that one of the most important subjects that had to be dealt with to-day was how to satisfy the aspirations of labour. He was perfectly certain that industry could not survive in this country unless we succeeded in persuading the workers that their interests lay in producing as much as possible. Until that economic fact was brought home to the workmen of this country, the conditions would con- tinue to be difficult. He was not sure that one of the great drawbacks to co-partnership was that it did not directly reward productiveness. His own view was that some modification by which the workman was paid according to his production was one of the necessities of the case. Although he confessed it was not easy to