286 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. February 8, 1918. primary source from which this wealth originates has its home not in Germany but in England. It is one of the most singular phenomena in the domain of industrial chemistry that the chief industrial nation and the most practical people in the world has been beaten in the endeavour to turn to profitable account the coal tar which it possesses. We must not, how- ever, rest upon our oars, for we may be sure that Eng- land, which at present looks on quietly while we pur- chase her tar and convert it into colours, selling them to foreign nations at high prices, will unhesitatingly cut off the source of supply as soon as all technical difficulties have been surmounted by the exertions of German manufacturers.” That Germany was now relying more largely upon her own resources was shown by the facts that, in 1897, she obtained only 52,000 tons of coal tar from coke ovens, whilst, in 1908, she obtained 632,400 tons from that source, and 300,000 tons from the manufacture of gas. That output of coal tar was nearly equal to, if it did not exceed, that of England. In 1913, this country exported coal tar and pro- ducts to the value of £2,362,000, made up as follows: — Crude coal tar, 88,000 cwt., valued at £16,000; refined coal tar and varnish, 3,071,000 gals., £68,600; pitch, 9,731,000 cwt., £1,100,000; tar oil, creosote, 37,758,000 gals., £592,000; coal tar naphtha, 515,000 gals., £24,600; naphthalene, 86,000 cwt., £37,700; anthra- cene, 564,0001b., £1,400; benzol and toluol, 6,655,000 gals., £303,000; carbolic acid (phenol), 168,900 gals., £190,000; and aniline and coal tar oils, 1,351,0001b., £28,900. After reviewing the chemical history of the coal tar dyestuffs, Dr. Bedson mentioned as amongst the explo- sives derived from coal tar: picric acid, trinitro- cresol, trinitrotoluol, tetranitroaniline, tetranitro- methylaniline, etc. ; and that the use of other nitro- derivatives of benzene in admixture with ammonium nitrate resulted in explosives used in mining, e.g., bellite, ammonite, roburite, etc.; whilst similarly, nitro-derivatives of naphthalene found application industrially. Discussion. Proposing a vote of thanks to Dr. Bedson, the Chairman remarked that, in the present condition of the country, it behoved coke oven managers to do their best to produce the largest possible output of toluene, benzol, etc., not only for the manufacture of dyes, but of explosives. He was quite sure that there were as capable men in this country as there were in Germany. The only thing was that the Germans had not been frightened to put down the shekels, whereas, in this country, unless the industrial magnates could see their 40 per cent, down the first year, they would not do it. He believed, however, that we were beginning to realise the position, as instanced by the case of British Dyes Limited, and that we should be able to get back what we had squandered by our exports of raw material to Germany. At one time all our anthracene went over there, until it came down "in price to such an extent that it was not worth while recovering at all. The vote of thanks was cordially carried. Mr. G. A. Phillipson remarked thaf the conditions under which coke oven managers worked, and the way in which they were controlled by men who had no chemical knowledge at all, rendered it impossible for them to launch out as they would like. In their asso- ciation there were plenty of men who were capable of manufacturing the products referred to by Dr. Bedson, and of doing it on a profitable basis, but they were not permitted to do so. He hoped the time would come when they would be allowed to develop their cwn plants in the natural course, and to make the products such as had been exhibited that afternoon. Dr. Bedson replied that there was no doubt of there being plenty of chemical ability in this country, but that the British capitalist needed as much education as anyone. THE GERMAN COAL AND IRON TRADES. We give below further extracts from foreign periodicals that have reached us, showing the course of the coal and iron trades in Germany: — Saarbriicken Settling Prices for Coal. The Administration of the Saarbriicken State Collieries announces the following list of settling prices, including coal tax, as being in force from January 1, 1918: — Flaming Coal.—Large, 23-20 to .24-40 mk.; screened through-and-through, 22 to 23-40 mk.; through-and- through, 20 to 22-40 ink.; small, 17-60 to 20 mk. Washed Coals.—Cubes (50/80 mm.), 24-60 to 25 mk.; nuts I. (35/50 mm.), 24-60 to 25-80 mk.; nuts II. (15/35 mm.), 24 to 24-80 mk.; nuts III. (8/15 mm.), 23 mk.; nuts III. (4/15 mm.), 22-20 to 23-20 mk.; nuts IV. (4/8 mm.), 21-40 mk.; nuts slack (2/35 mm.), 22- 60 mk.; nuts slack (2/15 mm.), 21-80 mk.; fine slack, 16-80 to 17*80 mk. Bituminous Coal. — Large, 25 mk.; through-and- through, 21-80 to 22-20 mk.; slack, 19-60 mk. Washed Coals.—Cubes (50/80 mm.), 25 mk.; nuts I. (35/50 mm.), 25 mk.; nuts II. (15/35 mm.), 24-40 mk.; nuts III. (8/15 mm.), 23-40 mk.; nuts III. (4/15 mm.), 23- 40 mk.; nuts IV. (0/8 mm.), 18-40 mk.; nuts slack (2/15 mm.), 22 mk.; fine slack, 17-40 mk. Coal in County Cork.—At the annual meeting of the Cork Incorporated Chamber of Commerce, a resolution was adopted drawing attention to extensive coal deposits at Bromagh, 34 miles from Cork, and within 1| miles of Rathcoole Station on the Great Southern and Western Railway system, with a falling grade from the place where the coal can be worked to Rathcoole Station. If a short railway were constructed to join with the main line, it was predicted, coal of good quality would be supplied in considerable quantities at a moderate price. MIDLAND INSTITUTE OF MINING, CIVIL AND MECHANICAL ENGINEERS. At the meeting of the Midland Institute of Mining, Civil and Mechanical Engineers, held at the Queen’s Hotel, Leeds, on Thursday, January 31, Mr. W. D. Lloyd (president) occupying the chair, the following new members were elected:—Member, Mr. G. J. Kitchener; associate members, Mr. R. D. T. Davies, Mr. H. Cooper; students, Mr. A. W. R. Forth, Mr. A. T. Y. Lew. Technical Education. The President, referring to the resolution in favour of the Education Bill, which was passed at the last meeting, said the intention was to support the grant- ing of facilities for technical education to those students who were likely to occupy responsible posi- tions at the mines, but, at the same time, they desired that education should be arranged for suitable students without interfering with the general attendance of students of the ages of 14 to 18 at the mines. They wished for those facilities to be granted without inter- fering unduly with the working of the mines, which the Bill in its present form would tend to do. Underground Conveyors. Mr. Harold C. Jenkins (Sheffield) then read a paper on “ Underground Conveyors.” {See page 273.) Discussion. Ihe President, in moving a vote of thanks to Mr. Jenkins, said the use of face conveyors underground was a modern improvement in mining to which they could look, perhaps more than to any other, for cheap- ening the cost of getting the coal away from the face, particularly in thin seams. Mr. Jenkins’ paper added materially to the literature that was available on the subject. Mr. H. F. Smithson, who seconded, said the ques- tion of conveyors was one which they would all have to tackle sooner or later. The time would come when the thick seams would begin to get worked out, and they would have to look to the thin seams; and to him it would appear that the only profitable way of working thin seams in the future would be by the use of con- veyors. The resolution was carried unanimously. Mr. Frank Poole said at present he was acting as deputy in two districts, in one of which shaker con- veyors of the Meco type were in use, while a similar plant had been delivered ready for installing in the other. The district in which the conveyors were already in use was on the rise side, in the Haigh Moor seam at the Hoyland Collieries. The length of the face was about 66 yds. They had had to leave a pillar of coal in, which had reduced the length from 99 yds. to 66 yds., and had involved a reduction in the number of pans; but at present they were getting some fairly decent results. They were getting four cuts per week, the depth of the cut being 4 ft. On the average, they had eight colliers employed, and the average output was 7| tons per man. The condition of the roof was fairly good, and this assisted them greatly in the working of the coal. It would really be an impossi- bility to work the coal without the use of machinery, on account of the hardness of the seam. The full length of the face was 99 yds., but the top end, on the rise, ran pretty near a fault having about 25 yds. of throw in the direction of the face. At that end, even- tually, they had a little trouble due to weight, but, since they reduced the face, and got the benefit of the conditions, the results had been well increased. Still, he did not think there could be anything to grumble at under the former conditions, because, with 15 colliers employed on the face filling the coal, it was possible to get four and five cuts over a certain period until the weight came on. That had to be dealt with, but, on account of the “ neshness ” of the roof, which was softer than the coal, it took a lot of controlling. In the same mine, on the dip side of the face just referred to, was another face, on which were 33 pans, about 130 yds. long, the pans being slightly under 4 yds. in length. Recently they had passed through a fault having a downthrow of about 4 ft. This had not greatly assisted in the conveying. When they met with the fault in the middle of the face, they had a lot of trouble due to the buckling of the pans. This was on account of the upper length of the pans having a dip in favour of the load, while on the lower side of the fault the gradient was not in favour of the load, but somewhat against it. Also, being short of air to some extent, they did not get the results which were expected. But, now they had got clear of the fault, things were improving, and he thought it would again be possible to get the 7| to 8 tons per man per shift. The number of men on the night shift employed in ripping and in moving the conveyor averaged 10. The average wages were about 10s. 6d. per shift, and the average number of shifts per week 5|, for which they were getting an average of 7J tons per collier. He thought that was a fairly good result in the circum- stances. On account of the shortage of men, they were not able to get the five cuts which they thought possible, as they had to contend with the difficulty of men not attending work, and of having to substitute others who were less capable. One of the chief dis- advantages to be urged against conveying was the lack of sufficient gob room in seams up to 2 ft. thick. In seams from 2 ft. to 3 ft. 6 in. thick, where conveyors were used in the majority of cases, the rippings, other than the main levels, were only used for the packs, but the back rippings had, of course, to be filled out and sent to the surface. ’ This meant that the tubs which should be available for the coal had to be used for carrying the dirt. The time taken up in getting the dirt to the surface and emptying it was another drawback. Further, when emptied on the pit stead, it was detrimental to the people and the vegetation of the locality, because spontaneous combustion gener- ally occurred; and it also occupied a large amount of valuable room, which could be used for other purposes. The fact that they were not able to pack the goaf tight caused the damage to surface property to be much greater than it otherwise would be. Replying to ques- tions by Mr. Smithson and the President, Mr. Poole stated that the coal cutter was cutting in 3 in. of dirt at the bottom of the seam. Over this dirt there was 2 ft. 10 in. of clear coal, of a very hard nature. Then there was a band of splint about 2 in. in thickness, and a further 2 in. of coal, immediately over which there was a yard of black shale, succeeded by 3 or 4 yds. of dark bind of a very soft and friable nature. He took it that the gas from the seam had drained into the roof, owing to the softer nature of the latter, thus causing the large amount of difficulty when weight came on. Mr. J. W. Simpkin referred to underground con- veyors of a human, not mechanical, type. He had been some years at a little coal field in the West of England, where human coal conveyors had been employed for the last three centuries. They were boys, who wore a belt and a chain under the legs, and they dragged the coal on the face. They did not follow the Yorkshire prac- tice of throwing it on the face with a shovel, but it was dragged out in cuts and taken to the gate. Formerly, they used to take it right down to the cross gate, but this was not done so much now. Still, even now, all the coal was conveyed across the face on both sides by these human coal conveyors, and this was one of the most efficient, safe, and economical ways of getting the coal from the face where it was dropped into the tub. Of course, the boys had to be born and bred to the system. They could not attempt to import that style, or to convert the Yorkshire or North Country boy to. it —there would be more than a strike if they did. Still, the fact remained that here they had a typical instance of the economical handling of coal, which had been carried out for a number of years under all sorts of conditions—in seams of coal from 12 in. thick up to 2 ft.; in inclinations fair, highly inclined, vertical, reverse, and inverted; and with roofs of varying character. Mr. G. Blake Walker said he had found a very great advantage in the use of conveyors. In the first place, the getting cost had, in his case, been materi- ally reduced by their use. But the great thing which induced him to introduce them, and which had cer- tainly been their justification, was the large reduction in the number of gates required. When they had to work a face in the ordinary way, they could not do with more than 20 yds. on each side of the gate, and even then it was very inconvenient in thin seams; but with a conveyor face they could have anything from 70 to 100 yds. on each side, so that they might have faces of 150 or 200 yds. for a main gate, and the saving in the construction and maintenance of these gates was very considerable. One of the great advan- tages was that they got the face moved more quickly, and a larger output from a given amount of face. In a case of his own, they had averaged, on a large face several hundred yards in length, an advance of about 5| yds. per week. This was going over the ground very quickly, and they had got a correspondingly increased output from that seam of coal. In fact, by the use of conveyors they had been able to make a seam payable which before always lost money ; and that was the great justification, he thought, for the use of conveyors. Whether they should be belt conveyors or shaker conveyors largely depended on circumstances, but the shaker conveyor was no good for going up hill. It must be either on the level or on a down gradient. Where they had those conditions, it was all right. Sometimes, he thought, a combination of the two types —a belt conveyor on the face and a shaker conveyor in the gate—would be good. Where conveyors were used, the coal was much better in size. The pieces were lifted on to the belt as large as ever a man could handle them—that was the limit. Sometimes, they had to cut away the roof a little over the drums, or else the big lumps jammed and stopped the belt. There was not the least doubt, as the President had said, that con- veyors were one of those improvements which were now coming to the assistance of the coal trade at a time when labour, and especially boy labour, had become so very much more expensive than it used to be. Unless they had these appliances, he thought they would have to give up the game. The old-fashioned ways would not pay in these days, and they must introduce the most economical form of mechanical appliances if they were to continue to work the coal profitably. Mr. Smith (Denaby Main) thought they all ought to be grateful to Mr. Jenkins for opening this field for discussion amongst mining engineers. Some two and a half years ago the firm with which he was connected went into the question of conveyors very thoroughly, and decided to put a conveyor installation into the Parkgate seam, which was 5 ft. thick, to convey from the face on to the gate conveyors. They headed the seam out by means of heading machines, and delivered the coal from the face on to the bords, and from the bords on to the main conveyor. They had had their ups and down with the installation, but the biggest trouble was not a mechanical one, or one due to mining, but to labour. The men were very much prejudiced against this machine mining, and the results in output had varied greatly. When they put in the installa- tion they decided that, in order to obtain the best results from it, they must do away with as many load- ing stations as possible, so as to concentrate the loading at one station. In order to be able to deal with it on a large scale, they loaded on to the main haulage road itself. They thought they would get a great deal of economy from that, and, to his mind, the economy that they had got out of the installation was that they were able to dispense with all labour from the face to the haulage road. But, unfortunately, their biggest trouble had been in handling the labour. As they were loading all the coal at one station, they had all the men being paid from one station. They had as many as 30 or 40 men whose coal was loaded at the one station, and who all shared, and they all reduced them- selves to the lowest level. The method took away individuality. If they got a poor workman and put him on the conveyors—and in these days they could not