May 25, 1917. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. 987 to the diameter of the spindle. For this reason, the waste water from a balancer should not be connected to the suction pipe of a pump, or means should be taken in the pump to equalise the areas subject to the static hydraulic pressure. The Rotor. The rotor revolves within the guide chamber and housing, each impeller running at some points in the closest proximity to the partitions dividing the pres- sure stages and return guides. These so-called running joints or neck rings must be so maintained by design and construction as to secure in continued service the smallest possible hydraulic leakage back from stage to stage, or mechanical loss by rubbing friction, both of which affect the efficiency and wear and tear of the pump. As a question of practical importance, the design of this combination probably follows next to that of the successful auto- matic hydraulic balancing of the axial end thrust. We have in it the question of the deflection of the pump shaft; the reinforcing effect of the surrounding impellers; the support afforded by the bushes, if any, between each stage, and the loss by bush friction (wear); the form of neck ring to reduce leakage; and the effect of key ways and keys, etc., all independent of each other, and affecting the whole. The ideal condition is that of a rotor supported in lubricated bearings, with a shaft of such sufficient stiffness between supports that the deflection, under all possible running conditions, is less than the clearance allowed at the neck rings and intermediate bushes, so that no contact takes place between the rotating and the fixed members, this clearance at the neck rings and intermediate bushes being kept down to the smallest possible limits. To lock up the impellers together shoulder to shoulder against each other by the end nuts in order to get the advantage of the rein- forcing effect is, however, advisable, because, owing to the slight inaccuracies of manufacture in squaring the shoulders of the impellers, sleeves, etc., the result would be to throw the combination out of truth, and distort the shaft. Moreover, provision must be made for dismantling in a mine or similar place, with its obvious attendant disadvantages, and the possibility of rough treatment taking place; furthermore, as a safe- guard against heating up and consequent expansion of the outside combination (bronze) against the internal (steel) shaft due to accidental contact with the inter- mediate bushes, running, perhaps, when the pump is empty, suitable expansion should be allowed for, and the impellers, to ensure this, must not be locked tight against each other. The supporting effect of the bushes on the shaft, in passing through the diaphragm intermediate between the impellers, is very difficult to allow for exactly. Intermediate bushes can only, in some cases, be con- sidered as water-lubricated supports which will act as such so long as a certain low surface pressure on them is not exceeded; and the author believes that too much use is made of such supports in turbine pump design. It is found in practice .that an internal bearing to be successful must have the same water pressure at both ends, and must be properly lubricated with good grease —it then gives excellent results. Hence, one is prac- tically dependent on the shaft itself for the necessary strength and stiffness to allow of fine internal clear- ance, and the importance of a good design which will economically give the minimum deflection of spindle at once becomes apparent. Consideration of the factors affecting the deflection of a turbine pump spindle shows that the following arrangements of bearings are possible: Two outside bearings; one outside and one inside bearing; or one outside and two inside bearings; but experience has shown the great importance of keeping the distance between bearings in a multistage turbine pump as short as possible, for the more or less customary type, with outside bearings at each end, gives a deflection of 6J times that of a pump with two internal bearings. The direct result of this extra deflection is that the clearances between the outside of the eye of the impellers and the neck ring must be increased to allow of the impellers revolving without touching, and this increased clearance necessarily means a correspond- ingly increased leakage and loss of efficiency. More- over, the passage of a large volume of water through the running clearance means increased wear, and a tendency to push the walls apart, and therefore force the impeller and shaft still farther out of the straight, with consequent friction against the adjacent neck ring surface. Securing the stiffness of a shaft by increasing its diameter is an inefficient method, for, besides the increased area for leakage through the neck rings, there are much worse conditions of entrance in larger and more rapidly rotating eye and inlet edge of the impeller vanes. The desirable condition, therefore, from all points of view, is to use the smallest diameter of shaft with the shortest distance between the bearings. Leakage Between Rotor and Stator. The leakage through the neck rings may now be con- sidered under different conditions and clearances. The material of these rings is of first importance, and should be of such a type that it will not tend to drag or tear if accidentally touched or rubbed by the running impeller. Material of a hard “ short ” nature like cast iron will meet this condition, and in practice the smallest clearance can be successfully run with such neck rings; they are, however, subject to corro- sion, particularly with acid waters as are frequently met with in mines. The impeller, for considerations of susceptibility to corrosion and strength to resist the centrifugal effects of high speed, is usually made from phosphor-bronze. Hence, phosphor-bronze impellers running in phos- phor-bronze neck rings are frequently used, though a phosphor-bronze impeller with a cast iron neck ring would be a better combination, and run with smaller clearances; but to get over the corrodibility of the cast iron it should be specially treated, or should be similar to that for renewal balancer rings. The form of the neck ring is, in practice, confined to four forms: (a) Internal, (b) external, (c) vertical, (d) labyrinth. The first is the usual form in turbine pumps, the second is more rare, the third is practically restricted to single impeller low-lift centrifugals, while the fourth is a refined form after steam turbine prac- tice, and is used in some high-lift pumps. Between (a) and (b) there is little to choose, but for manufacturing reasons (u) is usually preferred. Clear- ances of a few thousandths of an inch per side can be run with a suitable shaft, and the leakage is very slight, less than 1 per cent. The vertical form (c) is used in pumps for low lifts subject to dirty water and inferior attention. It allows of downward wear of the impeller without any rubbing surface coming in con- tact, which (a) and (b) would not; (d) is an attempt to reduce leakage further by a device of the kind used on the steam turbine. The labyrinth type, having'to deal with a non-expan- sible fluid like water, and not steam, is far less effec- tive than in the steam turbine, and in fact can only restrict leakage by the formation of eddies in the channels or grooves; shock losses at the sudden changes in area and direction, and the centrifugal effect of the rotating film of water in the narrow aperture. Its pos- sible advantages in this way are more than negatived by its fragile nature if it comes in contact with the impeller, such a contingency usually involving the eventual renewal of both parts. Types (a) and (b) only require a new neck ring after wear. All types, however, are readily made with loose rubbing rings, which may be easily changed. In practice it has been found that when grooves were cut on the impeller shoulders to secure a labyrinth effect, and at the same time the neck rings were left plain, that after funning for some time the marks of the grooves were always found in the neck rings; the difference between the worn surface and the original surface often being as much as ten thousandths of an inch, showing in these cases a deflection of the shaft greater than the calculated value. In these particular cases the fact that the grooves appeared all round the ring to the same depth indicated that they were due to actual deflection and not faulty alignment, the reasons for which may be found in the causes already enumerated and in mechanical inaccuracies. When inter-locking grooves are used, the difficulties of erection and dismantling are increased -unless the inter-locking is in the plane at right angles to the axis of the pump ; any other arrangement is, of course, only possible with horizontally split pumps or with split or divided neck rings. In conclusion, the author said that the efficiency of the turbine pump was considerably less than that of the water turbine, and the object to be aimed at was the raising of that efficiency to as near as possible that of the water turbine. Even now, the turbine pump was driving practically all other pumps out of the field. Its greatest enemy was probably prejudice. At the present time there were various committees for con- ducting and increasing the amount of research, but he did not know whether the turbine pump fell within the scope of any of these committees or of the institu- tion itself. If it were agreed that the turbine pump was going to assume, or was assuming, the very impor- tant position he had outlined, then it seemed to him that it ought to be the subject of a special research, just as much as the internal combustion engine. If the efficiency were raised by even 5 to 8 per cent., there would be an enormous value represented in £ s. d. DISCUSSION. The President (Mr. Michael Longridge) said the paper was one of the type to which he wished to see more attention given by the institution, as it described the results of years of work overcoming practical diffi- culties. It contained information hardly ever given in text-books, but which yet was quite as necessary to design and practical working as that found in the literature. The paper formed a fitting supplement to Dr. Unwin’s classic work on the subject. It also con- tained a warning to those coming fresh from college and feeling in their own minds the strength and ability to solve all sorts of problems from the knowledge they had gained there. If they relied solely upon that knowledge, they would come to unutterable grief, not because their knowledge was wrong, but because it was impossible with our present mathematical tools to take account of all the conditions arising in practical pro- blems. Adopting the attitude of a “ candid friend ” towards the author, he regretted working drawings had not been given in the paper instead of diagrams. Whether that was from want of time, or a feeling of secrecy, which undoubtedly did prevail among engi- neers at the present time—a fear of communicating to outsiders what they had attained themselves with a great deal of trouble—he did not know. That was a natural feeling, but he did not thifik it was one tend- ing to the benefit of British engineers; and he hoped the time would come when that secrecy would cease to be considered necessary. Mr. T. G. Sherwell supported the author’s plea for more research work to improve the efficiency of the turbine pump. Efficiencies had been obtained as high as 85 per cent., but there was no reason why, with the larger sizes and greater quantities of water, an effici- ency of 90 per cent, should not be obtained. The diffi- culty at present with manufacturers was that their time was fully occupied in producing for national pur- poses, and they could not possibly spare time for research work. Whilst that only applied to war time, and would not apply to peace, yet he felt there was room for independent research. With regard to the advantages of the two types, the ring casing and the divided casing, he thought a great deal too much was made of the difference. In his experience, there had never been any trouble with either. Mr. H. Munro, speaking on the question of effici- ency, asked how long the figures mentioned were main- tained. In reciprocating pumps, he understood that the efficiency was maintained almost indefinitely; but in centrifugal pumps, especially with acid waters, the tips of the impellers were worn away rapidly, and the efficiency rapidly fell off. Mr. Percy Griffith referred to the use of turbine pumps in boreholes as distinct from wells. He knew of a case in which such pumps had been very successfully used in these circumstances. He would like to hear of recent experience in this connection. The case he had in mind was that of a relatively small borehole, and the difficulties arose from the necessity for suspending the pumps from a vertical shaft driven from the sur- face, whilst their usefulness for this purpose resided in convenience of fixing and the possibility of getting a very large capacity in a relatively small space. Mr. Druitt Halpin mentioned an interesting appli- cation of the turbine pump which had come to his notice in Germany before the war. This was for the purpose of driving a number of cranes. He believed they were being tried tentatively, because the pressure used, viz., 4501b., was only about half that used in this country for similar work. It seemed, however, an application capable of considerable extension. Prof. P. M. Baker gave some figures of efficiency obtained with German pumps in India. The efficiency was stated by the manufacturers to be from 70 to 75 per cent., but the best figure obtained on actual tests was 56 to 57 per cent. He did not know whether that was the result of the German manufacture or an error on the part of those who took the tests. Was there any reason for supposing that in particularly acid waters there would be trouble from electrolysis due to the phosphor-bronze impellers being more or less in contact with the cast iron sleeve rings? Mr. Mark Robinson asked Mr. Griffith what steps were taken, in the case of the borehole pump that he had mentioned, to prevent the casing of the pump revolving. Did the borehole tube itself act as the delivery pipe, or was there a separate delivery pipe inside the borehole? Mr. Griffith said he had not the information at hand, but would be able to supply it. Mr. R. Tomlinson said he knew of an instance, in the north country, four years ago, in which Mather and Platt turbine pumps were applied to pumping out a mine, and it took more than three years to do it. The pump was suspended by two cables, and an elec- tric cable was also lowered for driving the pump. Mr. A. J. Bremner, speaking on the question of couplings for turbine pumps, said he had fitted pumps with various kinds of couplings, and the only trouble that-he had had with the flexible coupling was that it must be properly balanced. He had known the out- side bearing of the pump to be ruined in a very short time because the coupling was out of balance. Mr. G. W. Thompson expressed the hope that the author would be able to give the efficiencies of various makes of pumps, because, from his experience, there was a great difference between them. Capt. Sankey asked if any steps were taken in the works to balance the rotors of the pumps against dynamic want of balance in the same way that the rotors of steam turbines were balanced. There were many ways of doing it. The Author, replying, said the absence of dimen- sional drawings was due to lack of time and facilities for having them made. Trade secrecy did not apply, because he was not now engaged in the manufacture of these pumps. As to efficiencies, the variation in effici- ency was dependent upon the size, but at the present time a 500-gal. pump would give an efficiency of 76 per cent.; a water turbine under the same conditions would give possibly 80 to 84 per cent., or something even better. It was contended that the reason why one gave a better result than the other was that the water turbine gave a convergent flow and the pump a divergent flow, and that one produced eddies and the other suppressed them. That, however, must not be taken as gospel. During his time the efficiency had been greatly increased, and he was convinced that with detail investigation it would go much higher. The maintenance of the efficiency in a turbine pump was a very variable factor. A splendidly constructed pump dealing with clear water would run for years without being touched, but as soon as those conditions were departed from, there was an increased possibility of trouble. With gritty water there would be quick wear, and it had been found in practice, in waterworks, for instance, that great advantage accrued from having settling tanks in which the water was allowed to remain for a while before pumping. Then the wear was very little. He had tried to bring out in the paper what he thought should be done to improve the efficiency of the pump. With even running clearances, due to greater shaft stiffness, there would be little water passing through. With no water passing through these clear- ances, there would be no wear, and that was the thing to be got over. In many designs of pumps, he believed that too much was allowed for the inter- mediate neck rings to carry, and if these could be dis- pensed with, and the shaft made stiffer, the difficulty would be got over. That was a point that had had to be dealt with in steam turbine design. As to turbine pumps in boreholes, the second installation of turbine pumps that he had had to deal with was of this nature in Moscow 18 years ago, and it ran very well. The bore was about 24 in. diameter, and the pump was entirely suspended from the rising main. That was an old Reynolds pump, and the trouble originally was not with the pump, but with the bevel gear drive at the surface. That pump ran for years, until there was no more water to pump, and then it was taken out. One of the difficulties with borehole pumps was the care necessary to see that a lot of sand was not pumped up when the pump was first put to work. A violent suc- tion was created, and the sand drawn into the pump wore it out very quickly. The highest pressure used here was about 1,0001b., and as to the remarks of Prof. Baker about the German pumps, he himself had also come across similar instances of actual efficiencies not being as high as those asserted by the makers. He could not say whether electrolysis was set up through