March 16, 1917. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN 529 The American authorities for some of the information contained herein include Mr. Augustus Smith, who has been responsible for the construction of several of the United States naval coaling stations; Lieut. Robinson, who was concerned with the modern collier referred to; and Mr. Spencer Miller, who has been prominent in advocating coaling at sea by cableway and in perfecting details of such equipment. MIDLAND INSTITUTE OF MINING, CIVIL AND MECHANICAL ENGINEERS. The cementation process as applied to mining was the subject of an interesting discussion >at a meeting of mem- bers of the Midland Institute of Mining, Civil, and Mechanical Engineers, held at the Danum Hotel, Doncaster, on Thursday, March 8. There was a large attendance. Mr. E. W. Thirkell (vice-president) occupied the chair during the early part of the meeting, and afterwards, when he had to leave for another appointment, his place was taken by Mr. W. H. Chambers, a past-president. The Secretary (Mr. G. Blake Walker) announced that the president (Mr. C. C. Ellison) had had a severe attack of influenza, and, although he was better, his doctor advised him not to travel from Scarborough, in view of the cold weather. Several members of the council, including Messrs. Lloyd, Smithson, and Har- greaves, were unable to attend owing to the fact that the West Yorkshire coal owners were holding an important meeting. Mr. Blandford, who. had contributed a paper on “ The Cementation Process as Applied to Mining (Francois System),” wias detained in South Wales on a ticklish job that he could not very well leave. The secretary also reported that at present 34 colliery com- panies were subscribing members of the institute, which was a very satisfactory recognition of the work that that body had been doing. New Members. The following elections were agreed to :—Member, Mr. Sydney Gill; associate members, Mr. Joseph Norman Roberts and Mr. Aly Yousef; student, Air. Gerald Thomas Newbould. The Cementation Process as Applied to Mining (Francois System). The Secretary then read Air. Blandford’s paper.* DISCUSSION. Air. Thirkell said they had had a very interesting paper. One important part of it, to his mind, was the number of examples which had been given in order to show that the process of cementation could be carried out successfully in a practical manner under almost every conceivable condition. Air. H. N. Berry (Hatfield Alain) said the paper con- tained a very interesting general account of the various applications to which the cementation process had been put in this country, each of which, he thought, would form the subject for a complete paper in itself if only the details could be given, as no doubt they would be on some future occasion. The author had omitted one instance in which cementation had recently been use- fully employed in Yorkshire. This was a case where ground under winding engines had been giving way, and the winding engine pillars had been shattered. Those pillars had been cemented together, and the ground made perfectly secure. With regard to Hatfield Alain, the author had made one mistake, where he stated that the cement was washed out of the ground by the pressure of the water. If there was one thing more certain than another with regard to cementation, it was that once they got cement into the ground, they could not wash it out. The trouble at Hatfield Alain, at that time, was that they could not get the cement into the ground. It was never washed out : they could not get it in. He mentioned this because the statement in the paper might give members a wrong impression with regard to the process of cementation. There was another mistake in the paper, which he thought must be a printer’s error. Speaking of shaft lining with concrete blocks, it was stated : “ In dry ground where it is necessary to close off any water by means of such lining, this method is quite satisfactory.” He thought Air. Blandford meant “ where it is 'unnecessary to close off any water,” which was quite a different thing. Any gentleman who was seeking trouble with regard to wet shafts could get it by using concrete blocks, and could avoid it by using mass concrete. He was sure Mr. Blandford’s intention was not to recommend concrete blocks, even where it was necessary to close off any small quantity of water. Air. Blandford mentioned two methods of cementation—one where the holes were put down outside the circumference of the shaft as in freezing, and the other where they were put inside the perimeter of the shaft. In the speaker’s opinion, the latter was the only practical method of going to any depth. They all knew how diffi- cult it was to keep boreholes straight when they were boring from the surface. If they had a fair depth of water-bearing ground, and they put their holes in from the surface to go down to a depth of 200 or 300 yds.— which they might have to do in such ground as the new red sandstone, going further east—it would be almost impossible to guarantee that those holes would not come into the shaft. There were many other reasons why the boreholes should not b-e put outside the shaft. He would not like to have men in the pit bottom, sinking, when the pressures involved in the cementation process were on the unlined portion of the shaft. He should not mind them being on the lined portion, because he knew from experience that ferro-concrete would stand pres- sures that really were surprising. He now had a static * See Colliery Guardian, March 9, 1917, p. 479. pressure of 250 lb. per sq. in. on the ferro-concrete lining at Hatfield Main, but that shaft lining had stood 2,0001b. pressure per sq. in. in injecting, and the shaft, too, was dry at that particular place. The whole of the backing of the wall was solid. In the previous week’s Colliery Guardian* was a report of a paper by Mr. Sidebottom on the cementation of shaft linings at Llay Hall, Wales, in which it was stated, in general terms, that marls could not be cemented. He thought Air. Sidebottom was wrong in that particular. Marls had been cemented abroad, and were also being cemented in this country. They had just recently been cemented in Warwickshire. Mr. Sidebottom also stated that gravel could not be cemented. That depended somewhat on the gravel. If it was in juxtaposition with running sand, the statement was probably right; but gravel beds in certaiin cases could be cemented, and successfully. With regard to the origin of the cementation process, he found that in 1904 the Society of Lens, in France, carried out some work by cementation. He believed there was a paper, describing this particular work, in vol. 31 of the Transactions of the institute. Another claim which Air. Blandford might justly have made for cementation, as carried out by the particular process he referred to, was its great comparative safety. He thought, from his experience of cementing ground, that the work of the pit sinker was made more secure, and there was less liability to shaft accident due to falls of ground on the shaft sides in bad ground. He had sunk through ground which, without the cementation process, it would have been very difficult to make really secure by temporary timbering; but that ground, which was naturally bad, was made artificially secure before sink- ing through it, and no special precautions were required when temporary timbering was put in. Mr., Thirkell asked if the chemical mixture did not prevent the cement from being washed out. Experience at Hatfield Main. Air. Berry said he did not want to discuss Hatfield Alain very much, because he hoped, when he had time, to give a paper upon it, but he would be very pleased to answer any questions that might arise out of the present ‘paper. The process which was adopted at Hatfield Main, in the first instance, was one that had been employed very successfully, on other kinds of ground, in the North of France and in Belgium. It had been found that 2501b. per sq. in. was quite ample for all pressures that were necessary to cement ground of the character that had been tried up to that date, these grounds being in chalk, marl, white marl, and limestone. At Hatfield Alain they had to deal with the new red sandstone, which gave off enormous quantities of water, but unfortunately had very few fissures; and such fissures as were there were not clean, but full of sand. They found that they could not drive the cement into these fissures with the pumps which they had at that particular time, and which were built for a working pressure of 250 lb. The pumps were on the surface. They tried higher pressure pumps, and at 8001b. pressure per sq. in. their results were better, but not perfect. They only got perfect results when they combined with the ordinary cementation process the two chemicals, which had many effects, one of which was lubrication of the fissures. It was found that they got at least some quantity of cement in with one-sixth of the pressure when they injected the two chemicals first. Where they could not get any cement in a hole at all by forcing the thinnest possible mixtures of cement and water at any pressure the pump would go up to, they found that, if they uncoupled the cement pump and put on the pump which was kept for these two mixtures, and forced the mixtures in first, then the cement would go in, and at a very low pressure. The chemicals had also, in his opinion, a further action in preventing the sand in the fissures from packing up. If they exposed a fissure, with some loose sand in it, giving off plenty of water, a little sand would sometimes run out, but the water would not clear the fissure, and then, when they came to pump a thin grouting of cement, they found that it would not go into the fissure at all. What he thought happened in that particular case was that the loose sand went in front of the water, and reached a point where it became a lump : it packed up, and prevented the cement from going any further. The injection of the two chemicals prevented that packing up. It was diffi- cult to explain in a short description,, and he hoped to explain it more fully later on. The third principal action of the two chemicals was the precipitation, in the porosity of the ground, by the two separately mixed chemicals being injected separately, and choking the porosity of the ground and preventing bleeding through the porous rock after the main fissures were cemented. Mr. P. Sidebottom (Llay Hall, Wrexham) said he would like to have details as to the treatment of the wood-lined shaft in Lanarkshire which Air. Blandford mentioned. His own experience was that they must have something that would hold the cement more or less—a brick wall, or tubbing, or an iron plate, or some- thing of that sort. He could not see how Mr. Bland- ford managed to keep the cement behind timbering, and would like to know how he tackled the job. Air. Blake Walker asked if it would not be very much like a retaining wall with planks in front. These shafts were lined with planks, and if there was a bottom for the filling to rest upon, they would close up the space between the boards and get a concrete wall. Cementation and Gob-Fires. Mr. Sidebottom said that was so, but the cement must be injected under considerable pressure, and unless the plank was like match-boarding the cement would come out into the shaft rather than face the fissure. He should like a little information about that. Then, again, Mr. Blandford mentioned treating gob-fires. Well, if they got a gob-fire more or less effectively stanked off, so that they had plenty of time, he could quite see what a very useful thing cementation would be in that case. * Colliery Guardian, March 2, 1917, p. 429. But he should like some information as to the real utility of injecting in the case of a gob-fire. He had had to deal with one igob-fire within the last two years, and his experience was that the ground was so broken that, in spite of building substantial brick dams with good foundation, and cutting well into the side, the gas got through the fissures and breaks quicker than they could build dirt stoppings. They emptied the dirt of the whole distance of the pit against these stoppings, but the gas seemed to beat them. Eventually, they did stop it. His point was that where they had a gob-fire, it had to be tackled pretty quickly. Therefore, they would want to have their cement on the job. It looked to him as though, to deal effectively with a gob-fire, they would want to have a cement injecting plant some- where in the pit, always available. A thing like that would be excellent, but he was afraid it was not very practicable. With regard to the paper on Llay Hall, which Mr. Berry had mentioned, he (the speaker) was probably unfortunate in the use of the term “ marls.” What he meant was the sort of marls that they had in North Wales, which were of glacial formation. One would hardly call them stratified measures. They underlay the gravels, which were no doubt glacial deposits, found extensively in North Wales. He thought it would be very difficult to cement those marls. He supposed Mir. Berry referred more to the marls which were mentioned in Mr. Blandford’s paper, and were a sort of red sandstone found in Staffordshire. He supposed this material was more or less a stratified rock, but he had no experience of it. One point which pleased him was the fact that the present paper had been pre- sented at all. It would bring the question of cementa- tion before mining engineers. After nearly 20 years’ experience in Yorkshire, he went into North Wales, where he found the state of the shafts deplorable. The quantity of water in them rather alarmed him. Those concerned were used to it, and took it as a necessary evil, he supposed. It did not seem to give them any concern. He saw the evil, but he did not see the neces- sity for its existence. He set to work to cure it, and it occurred to him that, if cementation were any good at all, this was a case for adopting it. He fortunately rubbed shoulders with Air. Brydon, and the result was that they got the work done in a highly satisfactory manner. There was no doubt that the benefits that accrued were out of all proportion to the money that was spent. If more colliery managers knew what could be done by cementation, he had no doubt they would make efforts to get their pits dried. The benefits were really very great, and took a great load off a manager’s shoulders. In writing a paper like the present, and bringing the matter before the mining world, a great deal of good was done. Interior v. Exterior Boreholes. M. Schmidt (Paris, chairman of the French section of the Liege Institution of Alining Engineers) said that on the Continent the process of cementation had been used 20 or 25 years. It was called the Portier process, after the name of the inventor. It had also been adopted in Saxony; he did not know how many years ago. Air. Blandford’s statement as to there being two distinct methods of applying the process was not entirely exact. Boreholes could be put down either outside or inside the shaft. At the mines of Maries, one, or perhaps two shafts, were sunk with inside boreholes, and at other mines in the east of France the same method was adopted. The question of the deviation of the boreholes into the interior of the shaft, therefore, was not important. They were perfectly able to sink shafts with inner boreholes from the surface. It was a question of the kind of rock which they had to cement. In France, near Vimy,. where the British troops were fighting at the present moment, he had sunk two shafts in chalk. The ground was very wet, but they cemented it to the depth of 130 yds., and they had not had a single bucketful of water. He was not sure, however, that they would have the same excellent result in sand- stone. The application of cementation with the internal method of boning, at Alarles in 1908, was not the first, for the method was used several years before. The Alarles instance, however, was certainly the most interesting of all, because when the shaft collapsed the best part of the mine could no longer be worked. Thus a very rich part of that big coal field wTas saved by the process. The rock drills used were supplied by M. Franqois, and all the drilling was done under his per- sonal supervision. He believed that M. Franqois was the first to use chemical solutions, injected for cement- ing, and, he thought, with good results. M. Francois had also used very high pressures, as was stated in the paper. These high pressures, however, could only be used with this process of internal injection, and not in the neighbourhood of the surface. If they were inject- ing cement in the neighbourhood of the surface by internal injections, or by holes put down from the sur- face, they must have a strong stratum of clay, or, in its absence, they must make an artificial watertight platform. With high pressures, however, this stratum of clay would be quickly broken; in fact, he had seen cases in which all the foundations in the neighbourhood were broken by a pressure of not more than 1001b. per sq. in. It was only with the internal process that it was possible to use high pressures, and at great depth. With regard to defective boreholes, he said there was one method which was carried out entirely with cement- ing, neither casings nor linings being used for the bore- holes. He thought it was possible to cement wooden linings perfectly, at least when the shaft was round or elliptical. The first example of that was at the Cour- rieres Colliery, where, at the time, M. Portier was chief engineer. There, two shafts lined with wood were made entirely watertight, so much -so that not one drop came into the shaft. Many engineers thought that the terrible catastrophe at those mines was partly due to the cement- ing, because the coal dust in the shaft was more than