1164 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. December 15, 1916. 970yds. long, 6|in. circumference; weight, 301b. per yd.; weighted same as conductors; breaking strain, 140 tons; factor, 6’8. The above ropes were all made of the best plough steel by Messrs. Latch and Batchelor. Mr. A. H. Steele, H.M. inspector of mines, said he agreed with what Mr. Curley had written in his contri- bution to the discussion. He knew the colliery where Mr. Curley had been, and he was aware of the condi- tions there, as well as those at a similar colliery in the same district. The depth of the .shaft at both these collieries was about 900 yds. The details Mr. Curley had given were accurate. Round y. Square Shafts. Mr. G. L. Kerr said he did not suppose the author had any intention of seeking to convince anyone as to the merits or demerits of the circular compared to the rectangular shaft. Nevertheless, he felt it would be a good thing if either Mr. Nisbet, or some other member of the institute who had sunk circular shafts, would take a certain size of shaft, such as described in the paper, and give details of the cost of sinking, so that these details might be compared with the cost of sink- ing a rectangular shaft dealing with the same output. If Scottish colliery managers were to make a decision as to the type of shaft they ought to adopt in sinking, it was essential, in the first instance, that they should have information regarding the comparative costs. If these comparative costs were given, it would greatly help colliery managers in Scotland to make a decision. Mr. Wm. Ross (Auchengeich Colliery, Chryston) said he would be glad to hear the author’s views as to whether, in every case, he would use the system of having two guide ropes, Mr. James Black, for example, having said that it would be better to use four guide ropes for a depth of 300 fms. Mr. John Gibson, Kilmarnock, said it struck him that possibly -a factor that would require to be considered, besides the actual first cost of the sinking and equip- ment of the relative shafts, would be the cost of the mid-windings. He did not see very well that ordinary rope guides in a circular shaft, with a mid-winding arrangement, were so simple and safe as in a rectangular shaft. In Scotland, too, they were in favour of wooden slides, and the men were most experienced in handling wooden slides. If they had knowledge that a colliery in all likelihood would last for probably 100 years at a great depth, it might be better to spend the extra money in sinking and equipping a circular shaft. In districts, however, where the life of the collieries was an uncer- tain quantity, the type of shaft showing the lowest first cost was always the one that would be accepted. Mr. Richard M‘Phee, Bothwell, said he had no experience whatever of round shafts, but he had given Mr. Nisbet’s paper a considerable amount of thought. The paper would be a most valuable one to the younger members of the Mining Institute of Scotland. He believed its value would be still further enhanced if the president, or some other member of the Summerlee Company, would give them the benefit of the firm’s experience in converting a rectangular shaft into a round shaft. The President said he was pleased to hear read the communication which had come from Mr. Curley. Although he did not know the shaft Mr. Curley was writing about, he had seen a shaft fitted in exactly the same way as had been described. The question of stripping a rectangular shaft and converting it into a round shaft was one which depended altogether on the size of the shaft. The shaft Mr. M‘Phee referred to was a smaill shaft, and the matter of stripping was not difficult. Guide Ropes. Mr. James Nisbet, in replying, said, with reference to Mr. J. B. Thomson’s question, that on account of the shaft being sunk upwards, kettle guide ropes were not required. It was intended, however, to introduce these, had the sinking been continued to the depth at first proposed. The ropes were to be hung from crowns on the pithead frame, and their lower ends respectively passed through two parallel beams, fixed across the shaft at a depth of 50 fms. or thereby. Close below these beams, a gland was to be fixed to each rope, and tension applied to each rope by a weighted lever ful- crumed to the underside of each beam, and bearing on the afore-mentioned gland. On these beams the rider would rest while the kettle travelled below. These ropes were to be equi-distant from the winding ropes, and far enough apart to provide free travel of the kettle in between. Since there were no guide ropes introduced, there was no rider used. The construction of a rider was, however, considered, particularly from the point of view of preventing risk. Mr. G. L. Kerr had asked why they in Scotland should adhere so rigidly to the rect- angular form of shaft. Well, until recent years, Scot- tish pits had been comparatively shallow. They had been sunk to work comparatively small leaseholds, and their life was, therefore, correspondingly short; where pumping plant was installed, it was usually of the bucket or plunger type. A rectangular shaft was more easily partitioned off for the accommodation of such winding and pumping plant. Scottish mines, generally speak- ing, were less fiery than those across the border, and less consideration had to be given to the question of the obstruction offered to the passage of large volumes of air in shafts than was necessary in the case of gassy mines. It was common knowledge that the circular form of shaft offered least obstruction, more especially when fitted with wire rope guides. In the case of the larger, deeper, and more recent sinkings in Scotland, thev had been gradually getting away from the rect- angular form of shaft- and were sinking shafts of the circular or elliptical type. Mr. G. L. Kerr and Mr. James Black both remarked on the comparatively small clearance between the cages. That result had been arrived at in the present case by having guide ropes on only one side of each cage, and, as Mr. Black observed, having only | in. of clearance between buffer ropes and the buffer blocks, the faces of which were only 2| in. out from the sides of the cage. The buffer rope, placed in the position described, was able to check the ten- dency to side-swing, as well as to form what its name implied—a buffer or rubbing rope. Only two guide ropes were provided for each cage, because with four guide ropes'—two on either side of each cage—the cages would require to be further apart to avert the fouling of the inner guide shoes on the cages when the latter were passing each other in the shaft. To a consider- able extent, this was averted by packing out the rubber blocks beyond the line of the shoes, but the freedom of the cages to twist, and the possibility of fouling must be greater, in consequence of the buffer ropes of neces- sity being hung closer together, and therefore further away from the ends of the cage than they could be placed if no inner guide ropes were used. It might meet Mr. Black’s contention to suggest that the com- bined weight which would be hung on four ropes could be applied to two outer ropes, even if these had to be put in strong enough to sustain the greater load. The shaft described was not the only winding pit where out- side guide ropes alone were provided. It was, however, the only one known to him (Mr. Nisbet) where the clearance between the cages was not more than 6 in. Mr. Kirkby thought it would be better to put in steel rails, fitted to steel buntons, than have rope guides, and though more costly, he (the speaker) agreed that would probably give a more rigid and durable job, and be more suitable for mid-landing winding. On the other hand, the common practice in England was to instal wire rope guides'—even in deep shafts, drawing heavy loads with fast winding. He knew one large English colliery where the main winding shaft was 17 ft. in diameter. Wire rope guides were installed there, and four-decked cages carrying two hutches on each deck were raised from a depth of 450 fms. in 55 seconds. There could be no slowing down at the meetings there. With regard to the relative cost, as a result of his experience, he did not think there was much difference between sinking a circular shaft and sinking and timbering a rectangular shaft. With regard to the question by Mr. Ross, he was not prepared to say that he would limit the number of guide ropes to two in deep shafts, in view of the experi- ence of men who all their life had been dealing with this sort of work. In regard to mid-landings, he was of the opinion that a rectangular shaft was more suited to mid- landing winding than a circular shaft. He had seen mid-landings, and he had to confess, that he never desired to have anything to do with them. The discussion was closed, and, on the ’call of the President, Mr. Nisbet was thanked for his paper. The Hurlet Sequence. Discussion was resumed on the paper read by Mr. David Ferguson (Glasgow), on “ The Hurlet Sequence and the Base of the Carboniferous Limestone Series in the Districts of Campsie and Kilsyth.” The Secretary (Mr. G. L. Kerr) said he had received a letter from Mr. H. M. Cade-11, of Grange, Linlithgow, to the effect that Mr. Ferguson’s paper enabled the somewhat confusing sequence of the strata to be under- stood. In the East of Scotland there seemed to be a regular succession upwards from the oil shale series to the carboniferous limestone series, and no interruption to indicate local upheavals or volcanic movements. In the west there was no volcanic activity after the Hurlet period, but in West Lothian the volcanic activity which began at the Hurlet period or earlier, was continued right on to the end of the carboniferous limestone period, and did not end until the date of the index lime- stone. A local volcanic bank or ridge was formed, which must have been a considerable island for a time in the swampy waters when coal seams were being pro- duced. The Hurlet coal gave opportunity for chemical research, as Mr. Ferguson had pointed out, and now, when we must turn to the fullest advantage all our resources, he (Mr. Cadell) thought that chemists should direct their attention to the profitable elimination of the sulphur, or its extraction from this seam, of which there was still much left to work. The old process of making alum from the accompanying shale might, with the high prices now ruling, be revived with advantage, and a hunt for ironstone in that section, when iron is so much needed, might prove fruitful. The working of lime for cement and for agriculture might be resumed in some places. It was important to know all the places where good lime could be got, and it might be that some lime- stone beds were better than others. At present, all scientific research should be directed into practical and economic channels, so that we might help to make up the vast loss due to the war, by aiming at an increased production of wealth of every kind; and tire sooner we began to improve our output and methods the better. Prof. J. W. Gregory (Glasgow University) also testi- fied, in a brief speech, to the geological value of the paper; and the discussion was adjourned to a future meeting of the institute. A paper on ” The Summerlee Visual Indicator,” which was- read by Mr. D. M. Mowat (president), will be given next week. Partnerships Dissolved.—The London Gazette announces dissolution of the following partnerships :—J. E. Gomersall, J. W. Fisher, J. C. Towler, R. Lees, and H. Ross, trading as the Flockton Moor Colliery Company; H. E. Jackson and S. Mills, trading as Barlow, Jackson and Mills, coal mer- chants, Miles Platting; A. Holmes, H. Holmes, and H. Midgley, trading as Henry Holmes and Company, machine tool makers, Halifax; F.‘ 0. Russell and G. EL Pearson, trading as F. 0. Russell and Company, metal workers and brass founders, Price-street, Birmingham; F. Baker and W. A. Baker, trading as George Baker, at the Cecil-street Wire Works, Birmingham. SOME CAUSES OF DECAY OF TIMBERS IN COAL MINES.* By J. Mitchell, A.R.C.Sc. On taking up the subject of decay of timbers in coal mines, the author was -somewhat astonished to find how little was the attention directed to fungi as a possible direct factor in decay; and no computation of the rela- tive amount of wastage of timbers caused by the various factors seems to have been made in this country, though in the mines of the United States it has been estimated that 5 per cent, is due to wear, 20 per cent, to breakage under pressure or squeeze, 25 per cent, to miscellaneous causes, and the remaining 50 per cent, directly or indirectly to fungal attack. Opinion will doubtless differ as to whether such an estimate would apply to this country. There is no doubt that the proportions of each will vary greatly in different mines, but as an estimate applying -to all mines, it is probably roughly accurate. As a general proposition, it may be assumed that 50 per cent, of the wastage of timbers in the coal mines of this country is due to fungal attack, and therefore a more intimate knowledge of the fungi causing thi-s decay, their method of attack, and mode of spread, is neces- sary, in order to arrive at any reliable methods of checking this wastage. Anyone who has spent a few hours in a warm, damp coal mine will have been impressed by the luxuriance of certain fungal growths on the props, bars, or couplings, and even on the walls and ceilings of the roadway, especially in small excavations on the sides of roadways where the air is “ slack,” and where there is usually a good deal of timber. It is a general experience that where these fungi are most prevalent, decay is rapid, and the timber has to be replaced very frequently. The purpose of the present paper is to show what certain of these fungi are, and how they spread through the mines. Also to make suggestions for lessening the prevalence of these growths, and therefore the rate and amount of decay caused by them. These fungi commence their life history as micro- scopic spores, which are blown about or are carried by insects, etc. Under suitable conditions of warmth and moisture, they germinate on the surface or in the cracks of the timber, and produce threads which penetrate and feed on the substance of the wood. By the action of certain enzymes excreted by the fungus threads, the wood is rendered more fragile or brittle, so that it eventually breaks under pressures much less than those which it can bear when healthy, e.g., the timber is rendered useless for mining purposes. This is known as the vegetative stage of growth, and the threads are known as mycelia. Then, certain growths, in the form of cushions, brackets, or incrustations, appear on the surface of the affected timber, and produce microscopic spores. This is known as the reproductive stage, and the various growths are known as fructifications. The ripe spores become detached, and the cycle re-com- mences. Mine Fungi. The fungi found in mines can be roughly grouped under two types, based on the method of growth of the mycelium, and those who are responsible for the tim- bering in mines should be familiar with the charac- teristics of the two types. Between these two there are certain forms which are intermediate in character, inclining to one or the other according to local condi- tions, but a little experience will allow of these being placed correctly for practical purposes. Type 1 comprises those fungi which are characterised by an excessive development of surface mycelium. This grows over the timber in widespreading sheets or in long strands or cords; and it is this type which attracts most attention in mines. The following species have been found in Lancashire and Yorkshire mines, and illustrate * the characteristics very markedly :—Polyporus vaillantii (Fries), Polyporus vaporarius (Fries). Intermediate in character, but closely allied to type 1, are the following species, also from mines in the same districts : Paxillus acherontius (Schr.), Lentinus lepideus (Fries), Fomes annosus (Fries). Type 2 includes those fungi which show little or no external mycelium. They commence their growth in the cracks of the timber, but instead of growing out- wards to form sheets or cords, the mycelium remains inside the wood. Eventually the fructification appears on the surface of the wood as a cushion or bracket, and until this happens there is little to show that the timber is affected. A little consideration will show how dangerous the members of this type may be, particu- larly when we consider the question of falls of roof__ the fragile or brittle state of the timber not being realised in time. The following species of this type have been found in the mines visited :—Lenzites sept- aria (Fries), Trametes odorata (Fries), Trametes mollis (Fries), Polystictus versicolor (Fries), Polystictus stip- ticus (Pers.), Phytogaster albus (Sacc.), Phytogaster rubescens (Sacc.). It is probable that one or more of these forms will be found in every mine in this country, the one or other predominating in accordance with the relative tempera- ture and moisture, and, to a less extent, with the nature of the timber in use. Spread of Infection. The significance of each of the above-mentioned types in relation to the decay caused by them, may now be considered. Type 1.—From the nature of growth of this type, it will be seen that, given a starting point for growth, all the timber in the vicinity is liable to become involved. Thus, if the fungus is growing on a prop, it becomes a simple matter for it to spread on to the adjacent coup- * From a paper read before the Midland Institute of Mining, Civil and Mechanical Engineers.