702 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. October 13, 1916. MIDLAND INSTITUTE OF MINING,CIVIL AND MECHANICAL ENGINEERS. A paper on “ The Widening of the Upcast Shaft at Tinsley Park Colliery, Sheffield,” and a further discus- sion on ” Fuel Economy at Collieries,” were the features of a general meeting of the Midland Institute of Mining, Civil and Mechanical Engineers, which was held at ibe Great Northern Hotel, Leeds, on Thursday, October 5, Mr. C. C. Ellison (president) occupying the chair. Widening the Upcast Shaft at Tinsley Park Colliery. The paper (see Colliery Guardian, Oct. 6, p. 651), which was read by Mr. H. J. Atkinson, a student member of the institute, was submitted for a prize offered by the president, and gained the award. Discussion. The President said they had listened to a most interesting and very practical paper. If anybody was going to undertake similar work, he felt quite sure he would find the information in the paper of considerable value. Theoretically, after hearing the paper read, the work of widening a shaft sounded a very simple matter, but they knew how difficult it was in practice, how many little troubles had to be overcome which did not occur to them at the time of starting. He was sorry that that paper was the only one contributed for the students’ prize. Fie was sure there wore a great many young men who could contribute similar papers. He proposed a hearty vote of thanks to Mr. Atkinson for the trouble he had taken in preparing the paper. The resolution was carried. Mr. J. FI. W. Laverick (managing director of the Tinsley Park Colliery Company), in a letter expressing regret at his inability to attend, more especially as a junior member of his staff was reading a paper, said they did not claim any originality in using the boiler shell shield for supporting the sides and for the safety of the men working on the widened off ledge. He remem- bered some years ago reading in one of the technical journals of this method being adopted elsewhere—he believed in North Staffordshire. It struck him then as being a very simple and effective safeguard, and this they had proved it to be; and he would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone who contemplated doing similar work, i.e., where it was not possible to fill up the shaft before commencing the widening. Col. H. Rhodes said the paper was so absolutely prac- tical, and seemed to cover every point so completely, that it was difficult to criticise it. He should like to ask why they put in one oak crib. It would be interest- ing to have the exact quantities of air, both before and after the widening. With a quantity like 150,000 cu. ft., even if they got an increase of 15,000, and the water gauge went down 0*2 in., it showed that they had got some considerable improvement. The President referred to the firing of only two shots at a time, and to the fact that only a few men were working. He supposed this was on account of the danger of the weight of earth which would fall on to the scaffold. He noticed that the sinkers were allowed to ride on the top of the cage. He wondered why they could not go into the cage, after the tubs came out. The rate of progress described in the paper seemed to be very satisfactory. Mr. Blake Walker said at Wharnpliffe Silkstone they carried out a very similar job, enlarging a 10 ft. shaft to 15 ft., but they did it by filling it up, which, of course, was a somewhat easier process than that described by Mr. Atkinson. He was sorry he had not the particulars of the cost with him, but as the case was so absolutely parallel, he should be pleased to contribute the figures to the discussion. The excellent paper which Mr. Atkinson had given them, showed that some of the younger members could, if they only would, and if they would have confidence in themselves, do something to help the institute with papers. Most of the older mem- bers, especially at present, were very hard pressed, and had not time to write papers. That did not apply in quite the same way to the younger members—such of them as were left at home—and they would be very glad if Mr. Atkinson’s example proved catching. The President said there was another question he would like to ask : Whether it was feasible, and, if so, whether an estimate was made as to what it would have cost, to sink an entirely new shaft, instead of widening the existing one? When he was at Wharncliffe Silk- stone, they had a staple pit from the Silkstone to the Whinmoor, and they sank from the top on to the top of the staple pit. The surveying was made by two or three people, chiefly by Prof. Hardwick, and great care was taken in making it, because it had to be made round a lot of buildings—they could not get any direct sites at all. He believed the shaft was not 4 in. out. New Shaft v. Widening. Mr. W. D. Lloyd said the discussion raised in his mind the question how fully those imcharge at Tinsley Park discussed the question of whether it would be cheaper to sink a new shaft or not. Of course, each problem had to be settled on its own peculiar difficulties. At Altofts, about five years ago, they were confronted by an almost identical problem, and their solution of it was to sink straight from the surface. He believed he could give the cost of sinking per yard, which he would send to the secretary. The conditions were very similar to those described in the paper. They had an upcast shaft, with about 150,000 cu. ft. of air passing per minute, and they had to keep it open to maintain the ventilation. It had been worked as a furnace shaft for 40 or 50 years, and the sides were, at any rate, no better than they ought to have been; and the risk and the delay in carrying out the work decided them to start straight away from the surface. Of course, a new fan engine had to be put down at the .same time, and there was no possibility of putting it to the old pit. New winding engines were also required; and these circum- stances influenced greatly the decision as to sinking from the surface. He thought that, taken all round, there was a good deal to be said for making a fresh job entirely; it all depended on the conditions. Mr. A. Naylor (Shirebrook) said he had no doubt that the question of sinking a new shaft had been thoroughly considered. The shaft pillar would have to be taken into account in deciding whether a new shaft was to be sunk, or the existing shaft widened. In one particular case that he had carried out for Mr. Laverick, they sank a new shaft 15 ft. diameter. They also sank another shaft 150 yds. deep, and bottle-necked it from the bottom so as to make it into an upcast shaft. In the case of the 15 ft. shaft, the sinking cost £6 10s. per yd., the fixing of the bricking curbs £2 10s., and the bricking he believed 35s. In the case of the other shaft, which was 9 ft. finished, the actual sinking cost was £4 10s. per yd., the fixing of the bricking curbs £2, and the bricking between 27s. and 35s., according to the nature of the brickwork. The 15 ft. shaft was from the surface down to the Silkstone. The other shaft which they deepened was 7 ft. diameter from the surface to the Deep Hard, and 9 ft. from the Deep Hard to the Silkstone. Mr. Blake Walker said, in 99 cases out of 100, sink- ing was done backwards, but at his colliery they had had occasion lately to carry a staple pit upwards to a higher seam, and had done it on a principle that was new to him. He would try to get a short'paper on it. It might form an interesting supplement to Mr. Atkinson’s contribution. Mr. Atkinson, in reply to the discussion, said the oak crib mentioned by Col. Rhodes was only put at a depth of 4 or 5 yds., and was done temporarily. He could not give any actual figures as to the quantities of air. It would be rather difficult to do so, as an auxiliary fan was also installed whilst the work was in progress, and that would help to increase the ventilation. They had not got a very great increase of air as the result of the widening. He should think they had gained 15,000 ft. He would try to get the figures, and supply them to the secretary. The reason why only two shots were fired at once was that there was very little resistance. Very small charges were put in, and quite a quantity of material was brought down. The men were allowed to ride on the top of the cage simply as a matter of expedi- ence, for getting them down. He could hardly give any figures in connection with the sinking of a new shaft. This would necessitate different arrangements both at the surface and underground in connection with the fan drifts. Moreover, at Tinsley Park they had the larger size of shaft for the lower part, and they wanted to utilise that. They had only 214 yds. of sinking to do, whereas a new shaft would have meant sinking 548 yds. Fuel Economy at Collieries. The meeting then resumed the discussion on Mr. F. F. Mairet’s paper on “ The Economical Production and Utilisation of Power at Collieries,” which was read on July 18. (Colliery Guardian, July 21, 1916, p. 114.) Discussion. Mr. W. D. Lloyd said that on the last occasion he suggested that the figure given by Mr. Mairet for the percentage of the total heat units produced from the fuel burnt which were utilised in work at an average colliery was star tingly low. He was now able to give the corresponding figure for the Altofts collieries as a result of an investigation made by the National Boiler Insurance Company in March last. It was estimated that 3-34 per cent, of the heat units produced from the fuel burnt were utilised in work done, as against 1’7 per cent., the figure given by Mr. Mairet—that was to say, practically twice as much work was obtained out of the heat produced at the one colliery as at the other. The investigation at Altofts covered the working of five plants, consisting of 28 boilers, over a fortnight, and was carried out by the same people who made the report on the Wharncliffe Silkstone collieries; therefore the figures were strictly comparable. It was only fair, However, to point out that, at Altofts, the winding engines were only used for drawing coal eight hours per day, and that only 9 per cent, of the heat units used were utilised for wind- ing, which was a comparatively low proportion, as the winding engine was practically the most extravagant large engine at a colliery. On the other hand, 44 per cent, of the heat units were utilised for air compressing in fairly modern engines, and 30 per cent, in constant running fan engines; so that nearly three-quarters of the steam was used in constantly running engines. But he should also state that, although the results of the boiler tests at Altofts were better than those given by Mr. Mairet, they were capable of considerable improvement. All the auxiliaries were steam-driven, steam was taken down two pits to drive haulages, and three out of the five boiler plants had no economisers; they had no super- heaters and no exhaust steam turbines. Therefore, there was considerable scope for improvement, and yet they were getting 3’34 per cent, out of the heat that was given out by the fuel. The investigation was carried out to see what they were actually doing, and also what improvements they could make. The biggest waste occurred in the surface auxiliaries, of which they had a tremendous number, all taking a big quantity of steam per indicated horse-power. They also had long ranges of steam pipes. It was estimated that by driving these auxiliaries by electricity, fitting some of the boilers with superheaters, and making certain other alterations, the power required could be produced with slightly over half the fuel which was at present being used. That was to say, after the improvements were made, over 6 per cent, of the heat units produced should be utilised. He was of opinion that many modern collieries were, or should be, getting somewhere about 6 per cent, of efficiency. There was much room for improvement in fuel economy at the majority of collieries, but he maintained that the figure given by Mr. Mairet for the percentage of efficiency obtained at an average colliery was too low. The follow- ing were the main results of the Altofts investigation :— Thermal efficiency of five boiler plants, 64’3, 53-2, 43’4, 57’6, and 52-6 per cent, respectively; total amount of fuel (not all coal, by a long way) used per week, 850 tons; total British thermal units produced from fuel burnt, 19,956 millions; average calorific value of fuel burnt per lb., 11,062 British thermal units; British thermal units utilised in work done, 666’92 millions; total indicated horse-power hours per week, 262,100; total pounds of steam generated, 10,215,100; total pounds of steam used in engines, 9,081,500; average pounds of steam used per indicated horse-power per hour, 34’6; average pounds of fuel used per indicated horse-power per hour, 7’26; pounds of steam raised per pound of fuel burnt, 5’36. He might point out that the average calorific value of the fuel used was comparatively low, and the average weight of fuel used per horse-power hour was, therefore, correspondingly high. If they had been using fairly decent coal all the while, they would not have used quite so much per indicated horse-power hour. It should also be noted that the investigation was made during the war, that the proportion of steam used for winding and hauling was below the normal, and that the boiler firing and the condition of the engines were not so good as they would have been in peace time. Misleading Estimates. Mr. H. F. Smithson said that some people worked on the percentage of output that they drew, and others worked on the cost per ton; but he thought all these figures were more or less misleading, and that the only accurate way of finding out whether a colliery was doing well or badly was to ascertain how much coal was burnt per indicated horse-power. Ten years ago, the collieries with which he was connected were drawing about 10,000 tons of coal per week, and for that tonnage they had 17 Lancashire boilers. Just prior to the w’ar they were drawing 17,000 tons a week with five Lancashire boilers. Since then they had increased their power plant. They had put up some new compressors, and consequently they had put up another boiler, so that now they had six boilers running. Their output was not up to 17,000 tons at the present time; but two years ago, which was during the period of the war, they had tests made, and these showed that they were burning 5 lb. of coal per indicated horse-power. He agreed with Mr. Lloyd that Mr. Mairet’s figure of 1’7 per cent, thermal efficiency was extremely low. The results of the tests referred to proved conclusively that the plant was open to several improvements, many of which had since been made, and a later test showed that their thermal efficiency was 5 per cent.—in fact, he should think that to-day it was rather better than that. The efficiency of the boiler plant was just over 60 per cent., which was not too good. Therefore, if they could improve that, and they already had a thermal efficiency of a little over 5 per cent., there was no reason, in his opinion, why the thermal efficiency of a colliery plant should not be got up to at least 6 or 7 per cent. They had been able to increase the efficiency at the collieries w’itli which he wras connected by the use of exhaust steam turbines. He would suggest that the ideal method, at a colliery where there wras a washery and no coke ovens, was to try and arrive at a balance of power. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that they had 2,000 horse-power to run the whole of their plant; if they could divide that up into a proportion of about 1,200 horse- power steam, and from that 1,200 could get back another 800 horse-power of electricity, he could not conceive any conditions more ideal or more efficient. A question that had been raised in the discussion wras that of the use of w’ashed fuel. Well, they had been burning washed fuel for three years or a little more, and he thought it w’as a proper thing to do. If they had a washery, and could wash all their output, he could not see why the pro- ducing side should not be treated exactly as customers buying from the colliery. His experience showed that customers nowadays preferred washed fuel to dry fuel with a lot of dirt in it; and he did not see why a colliery •should not do exactly the same thing. By doing that they economised in capital cost, they had fewer boilers and fewer men, the labour cost w’as reduced, and he thought, speaking generally, one had less trouble all round. The crux of the whole question, he thought, wras that, as producers at a colliery, the only thing that counted was how much of their output they could hand over to the selling department. Mr. Beach suggested that comparisons should be made in £ s. d., or so much per ton; but that w7as hardly the point, because the selling department at one colliery might like to charge a ton, whereas the selling department at another might only like to charge 2s. 6d. They could not get comparisons that way. The real thing that counted was how’ much of the output they could hand over to the selling department, and the more they handed over the