652 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN October 6, 1916. both sinking and bricking was about 4 yds. per week of 11 shifts. Generally five men and one chargeman were working in the shaft at one time. Cost. The contract price for the widening was .£10 per yd., and £15 per yd. for the special work at the High Hazel Level, which included taking out the old tubbing and inserting 18in. brickwork with concrete filling at the back. The total cost, including the new brickwork at the various insets, worked out approximately to £20 per yard for labour and materials. Results. So far as the ventilation is concerned, there is a small increase in the amount of air passing, accompanied by a slight decrease in the water gauge of 0-2 in., which for a few years will be satisfactory. A larger enginehouse is now in course of construction to contain a more modern pair of winding engines, and a permanent head- gear will also be erected in the near future with guides, etc., to run two chains. SOUTH WALES INSTITUTE OF ENGINEERS. Stone Dusting in Steam Coal Collieries. At an ordinary general meeting of the South Wales Institute of Engineers, held at the Royal Jubilee Metal Exchange, Swansea, on Tuesday, September 26, dis- cussion was resumed on the paper of Mr. G. D. Budge (Aberaman) : “ Notes on the Stone Dusting of Steam Coal Collieries.”* The President of the institute (Mr. William Stewart) said it had been suggested—and he thought it probable —that before long there would be legislation on the question of stone dust in collieries. It was true that in the Swansea district, with its large anthracite industry, the problem might not appeal to them with that urgency which applied to it in the eastern part of the coal field, but it was an important point where the dividing line began and the particular collieries in which stone dust was more or less applicable in that area. Mr. L. G. Hill (Birmingham) said at the Cardiff meeting Mr. W. W. Hood declared he would not accept the recommendations of the Explosions in Mines Com- mittee as being of any value. What did they find inde- pendently of the Explosions in Mines Committee? Within three weeks of the issue of No. 5 Report an explosion occurred at Senghenydd, by which over 400 lives were lost; but, on the other hand, 500 lives were saved by the accidental presence of stone dust in a tract of roadway separating the two areas. This was not disputed. Again, in July 1914, an explosion began at the Denaby and Cadeby pit in the same conditions, except in one important respect, as those existing at the disastrous explosion at the same colliery two years previously. On the second occasion, however, owing to five months’ stone dusting with Griffin ground dust, the initial explosion was extinguished, and no one was hurt. A question was asked at the last meeting as to the effects of stone dusting on survivors after an explosion. He heard of no inconvenience on this score at the Denaby and Cadeby pit. He submitted that these facts estab- lished the value of the stone dust recommendation of the Explosions in Mines Committee. Mr. Hood was an advocate of watering and water zones; but damp walls and roofs would not attract coal dust, and there remained a floating dust in the atmosphere which was dangerous. Of this they had had two examples during the past 12 months, namely, nine lives lost at Rowley Regis by an explosion of dust in a damp mine, and early in August 13 lives lost by an explosion at Ashington Colliery, which he was told 18 months ago was a damp mine and did not need stone dusting. Stone dusting should be done carefully and economically; and he was inclined to think Mr. Hood’s chief motive in his oppo- sition was to ensure that stone dusting should receive skilled and intelligent attention. Without disinterested opposition, all reforms would be slipshod. To revert to the recommendation of the Explosions in Mines Com- mittee, Mr. Clive, of Brodsworth, said it was impossible to increase the natural ash content of 35 per cent, up to 50 per cent., and consequently quite impossible to increase South Wales dust up to 50 per cent. ash. United States practice said 75 per cent, was necessary. The Explosions in Mines Committee said efficiency was a matter of degree. Mr. Budge, as a result of 12 months’ practical work on a fairly large scale, had increased his South Wales ash content up to an average of 63 per cent.; and this with a very small expenditure of dust. He (the speaker) ventured to predict that, with a continuous automatic distribution of stone dust slightly in excess of Mr. Budge’s practice, the 75 per cent, of the United States could be attained without inconvenience to anyone. Anyway, Mr. Budge’s actual results were a complete answer to Mr. Clive and Mr. Hood to the degree of 63 per cent, ash content. Five or six years ago it was expected that a mixture of 14 to 1 would be necessary. Mr. Guy de Gruchy Warren (Pantyffynon) said Mr. Budge had done the colliery community and the insti- tute a great service in undertaking an investigation that had obviously entailed upon him a long-continued task of an exacting and arduous character. As the president had said, the coal dust problem did not appeal to those in the western district with the urgency that it did in the steam coal area. In comforting themselves that anthra- * Colliery Guardian, Sept. 22, 1916, p. 548. cite dust was not dangerous, however, they might be living in a fool’s paradise. Two experiments were made at Altofts with anthracite dust, but neither was satisfac- tory, and there was a recommendation for further trials. He believed that in the American tests numerous attempts were made to fire anthracite, and in all cases they were unsuccessful, which was comforting to those engaged in the Welsh anthracite industry. He con- curred with Mr. Budge's remark that the key to all stone dusting operations was given by the Explosions in Mines Committee in the conclusions to the Fifth Report, and that incombustible dust was more effective in preventing the ignition of coal dust than in checking an inflamma- tion that had started. He (the speaker) believed that M. Taffanel declared that 75 per cent, of stone dust was insufficient to stop the propagation of an explosion, and he did not think there was any colliery with that average. After the care Mr. Budge took to make Ifis roads safe, it was disappointing to read that there remained in the colliery two danger zones—the coal face and cavities. He did not know if Mr. Budge had made experiments at the coal face; perhaps he would let them know. He did not profess to have intimate knowledge of the subject, but it struck him that something in the form of a barrier, either of stone dust or water suspended—something after the arrangement that Mr. George Hann had designed— might be erected in the faces, to be tilted immediately a small explosion occurred—similarly to the practice in the French experiments—and produce an atmosphere which would extinguish the flame. He had had the privilege of seeing some of Mr. Budge’s experiments, and of seeing the ejector at work. It was extremely simple and, apparently, extremely effective. It seemed to cover the roadway in a very short time with a thick film of stone dust. Mr. Budge informed them he had, so far, been unable to obtain a good collector. Had he tried reversing the operation of his ejector to form an injector in order to collect the coal dust, which apparently blew away, before he started dusting with the ejector? He would also like to know whether Mr. Budge considered it the best practice to blow away the coal dust film before starting to stone dust, because he told them in the paper he obtained an immunity in one part of the mine at the expense of another part. Perhaps the better practice would be to apply the stone dust to the coal dust film and make a harmless mixture, to be collected as opportunity arose. With regard to the analyses, had Mr. Budge formed an opinion as to the value of natural ash in the coal in preventing explosions, and in his analyses had he taken the natural ash into consideration? His reply might be that the Powell Duffryn coal contained no natural ash, and therefore the ash given was inert dust only. In trials of several Aberaman coals at Altofts, he believed it was found that the efficacy of natural ash was very similar to coal dust in which an artificial mixture of inert dust had been put. In regard to the French experi- ments, M. Taffanel stated he did not think that, given equal proportions, the natural ash of coal was as efficacious as an artificial mixture. Mr. Budge’s paper gave a valuable record of the varying conditions in coal mines, and pointed to the necessity of doing something more than the Coal Mines Act required. Coal mines must be treated as were patients in a hospital. Outward appearances were no good; each mine, like each patient, must be dealt with according to its own particular condi- tions, and after a careful diagnose or analysis, the proper remedy applied in the shape of a proportion of stone dust suited to its case. He was sure Mr. Budge would con- tinue to give them the benefit of his experience in stone " dusting, and perhaps in the course of time they might be privileged to learn that he was able to make a colliery safe. Mr. George Roblings (Llanelly) said while he was now one of those who might be “ living in a fool’s paradise,” yet many years ago he assisted in collecting coal dusts for Dr. Galloway’s experiments, and saw very forcibly how very dangerous these dusts were. With these early and abiding recollections, he had read with keen interest Mr. Budge’s paper, which was of a highly important character in the facts which it contained of the results of actual practice. Mr. Sidney L. Gregor (Swansea) also spoke of early practical tests of the explosibility of South Wales coal dust with which he was associated. Mr. John Standidge (Ystalyfera) said they must all agree with Mr. Budge that the first thing to be done was, as far as possible, to prevent the accumulation of coal dust, and then deal with what was left as efficiently and economically as possible. The author told them that machine mining tended to increase the proportion of the finest dust, the inference from which was that machine mining tended to make the face more dan- gerous. Of course, it depended a good deal upon the mode of cutting. It was, however, the general practice, where possible, to cut in the dirt under the coal, or under any small band of dirt available. Dealing with the work of the injector in cleaning and stone dusting 610yds. of main haulage road, the author had said two men carried out the work in L:{ shifts, and samples were taken after three days had elapsed and after 300 tons of coal had passed over the road. He (Mr. Standidge) understood it was near the pit bottom. If that was so, the cost would be rather a serious matter. The work would have to be done again in 15 da vs’ time to keep the 50 per cent, stone dust. As to Mr. George Hann’s distributor, it seemed to be a kind of hopper arrange- ment above the trams, and as each tram came 0'72 oz. of dust was liberated. A good deal depended in whether the road was single or double. The President said the old trams in the South Wales district tended to spread coal dust. They were designed before they fully realised the danger of the dust: before Dr. Galloway’s experiments opened their eyes to the peril. In practice, it was necessary in their steam coal collieries, where extensive repairs were needed, that trams should be provided with doors to facilitate the loading of rubbish. In the Midlands, where repairing was not on the same scale as in South Wales, trams with doors were not essential. There was no doubt, of course, that the trams in South Wales caused a great deal of coal dust to get on the roads. Much could be done by the workman, in loading the trams, to mitigate the evil. The watering of trams as they came on to the double parting was also essential, as Mr. Budge had pointed out. A feature to which he did not think Mr. Budge had referred was the filling up of all cavities by means of stone or brick archings or girder arching. In recent years he had had considerable experience of the work of securing roadways with girder arching, and had proved that this method was financially advan- tageous, as well as getting rid of the dangers of overhead cavities. In one instance, there were immense cavities in a return, which was heavily timbered the whole of its length. All the cavities were filled up, and the work of securing that return with girders was done without sending out a ton of rubbish, all the rubbish being deposited in the cavities. He thought it was very neces- sary, whether they were watering or stone dusting, that the cavities in the roadways should, as far as practicable, be filled up. Mr. Budge had told them that* it was impossible to get cavities stone dusted to the same degree of efficiency as the roadways. It was true they might have cavities near the working face, where the ground was not sufficiently settled for arching, but the bulk of the cavities were on the intakes and returns. As to the quality of anthracitic dust, whilst the Eskmeals experiments, as far as they had gone, had not succeeded in exploding that dust, he did not think it was desirable to take that as sufficient evidence of the inexplosiveness of anthracite. There was no doubt that they were likely to see legislation soon introduced bear- ing upon this matter, and probably the mining engineers in the western part of the coal field would be asked to express their views and relate their practical experience. Meanwhile, they might take it that the results of the experiments at Eskmeals would be taken as a basis of enquiry and possibly legislation. Danger at the Coal Face. Mr. G. D. Budge, replying to part of bhe discussion, said there were some points with which he preferred to deal in writing. The safety of anthracite dust depended on the difficulty of igniting it. In certain other parts of the coal field they were trying to make a coal dust mixture difficult to ignite. With regard to the coal face, he had not yet made any considerable experiments with stone dust in the face. They had recently been making experiments for the Home Office with treacle and colloid, and they had also tried a certain proportion of stone dust. At the present time he saw no clear way to make the coal face safe. The coal face was undoubtedly the most dangerous place, if the pit was stone dusted. In the face at a steam coal colliery they might have dust which would not yield, on incineration, more than 5 per cent, of ash; they might have 15 times as much dust in the coal face as was necessary to propagate an explosion. In the old days a large accumulation of dust was known to be a safeguard, to a certain extent. He knew of one explosion which, from all accounts, seemed to have been choked by too much dust at or near the coal face; but there was sufficient of the finest dust of low ash content in all steam coal faces to generate a very violent explo- sion, and if an explosion started in the coal face it was not at all certain that a 50 per cent, incombustible coal dust mixture on the roadways throughout the colliery would stop that explosion. The coal face must certainly be dealt with, and he intended to study the matter very carefully. He hoped other people would also do so, in order that a very difficult problem might be solved. The question of barriers of stone dust tilting into the atmo- sphere in the coal face presented difficulty. Supposing a piece of coal face was isolated by those barriers, they would have to arrive at the length of coal face which each barrier would have to deal with, and the barriers would have to be not only frequent, but also of considerable length. It would mean cutting up the coal face very considerably; so that he was afraid it would interfere with the continuity of the face-—a very serious matter in South Wales. As to the question of cleaning before stone dusting, he did not believe in using the ejector for cleaning. He had tried it several times, and had opened the doors leading from the main intake to the main return, blowing the coal dust up the upcast pit, and he then got into considerable trouble with residents near the pit top, owing to the quantity of coal dust coming up the shaft. A tremendous cloud of coal dust was raised in the atmosphere, and it certainly came up the pit, but that could only be done for a short distance near the bottom. Unless they could collect the coal dust after raising it into the atmosphere, and taking it out of the colliery in trams, there was no object in disturbing it at all. It was far better to leave it than to allow it to be carried to some other part of the mine and perhaps deposited in high cavities and places where there might be gas. The question of reversing the ejector and using it as a vacuum cleaner had been mentioned. He had tried it, and for cleaning electric cables underground the method was very satisfactory. It had been tried for cleaning cavities, but as there might be gas at any time in a cavity, say, 20ft. or 30 ft. above the haulage road, one was somewhat chary of the mixture that this vacuum cleaner was handling. All that could be said about the vacuum cleaner was this : it was certainly efficacious, but it was too costly to be practicable. It was suitable for taking coal dust off a length of electric cable, which, of course, was necessary, but beyond that it was not practi- cable. With regard to the analyses, the natural ash of the coal was included in all instances, and in the figures that he had given, this was of considerable effect. The general variation of the dust in South Wales steam coal