May 26, 1916. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. 1005 SOUTH WALES INSTITUTE OF ENGINEERS. A special general meeting of the South Wales Institute of Engineers was held at Cardiff on Thursday, the 18th inst., the President (Mr. William Stewart) in the chair. The following were elected to the Institute :—Messrs. E. Barrs, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; J. P. Beat, professor of geology, Cardiff; 0. Walters, Durban, Natal; E. Wautier, Llantrisant; and G. P. Williams, Crumlin, as members; 'and Mr. G. V. Perry, Swansea, ais associate member. The President remarked that 102 members of the institute had joined his Majesty’s Forces since the com- mencement of the war, and seven, including Lieut. Edwards, of the. Tunnelling Companies, had been killed. Steam Plant Efficiency. Discussion was opened on Mr. Vernon Smith’s paper on “ Steam Plant Efficiency,” the author having pre- viously displayed a series of lantern views illustrating the paper. Mr. T. Sugden (London) said there had been no experiments, so far as he was aware, which had shown there was a substantial difference in the amount of heat which a certain number of cubic feet of gas would trans- mit to a. given area of boiler plate when the gas was moved slowly or moved rapidly over the surface. If the gases moved slowly they were for a longer time in contact with each square foot, and, of course, the amount of heat transmitted would be proportionate to the time each part of the gas was in contact with each part of the plate. On the other hand, if the gas moved rapidly along the side flues, there was no difference in the total number of cubic feet which came in contact with a given part of plate, and there was no reason to expect there would be much difference in the amount of heat transmitted to the water in the boiler. The speaker went on to say that the author, in dealing with grooving, had overlooked one important factor, namely, the ” hogging ” of the tubes. The extent of the longi- tudinal elongation of the flue had been found in a 30 ft. boiler to be about g an. to I in., and was always most where grooving, incrustation, and grease were present in the boiler. , The hogging of the tube at a distance of about 12 ft. from the front end amounted to about £in. in a 30 ft. boiler. The action of this hogging has a tendency to result; in grooving. The flat end-plate was more elastic, and appeared to be the best arrangement to pre- vent this action. The corrugated flue shown in the paper was open to serious criticism. If constructed as shown, the flue had no transverse flanged seams, and was practically one long corrugated flue about 30 ft. long. If so constructed it was very liable to go oval. He did not think that collapsing tests of such corrugated flues in 30 ft. lengths had ever been made, and the con- structional design had apparently been based by the makers on the assumption that flues 30 ft. long, as shown, were of equal strength to the 8ft. or 10 ft. lengths of the flue tube, which actually had been tested to destruction. With 'regard to superheaters, the tubes of the superheater illustrated on the diagram in the paper were detachable, each tube being kept in position by means of pressure exerted by a screwed joint. He (Mr. Sugden) had made a good many experiments, and had a good deal of experience of detachable tubes, and had made superheaters on this principle, but there were certain objections. In the first place, there were a large number of joints, which the steam pressure was always against. The joints must be faced, and if leakage occurred it was difficult to remedy. From a long experi- ence he had come to the conclusion that the best possible way of attaching superheated tubes to headers was by means of an expanded joint, with the ends of the tubes projecting through to the extent of about J in., which should be bell-mouthed. This made a good solid job, and was less likely to give trouble than any other method of connecting the tubes. The author of the paper had referred to diminution of efficiency in boilers due to the accumulation of scale. Professor Rankin’s statement, of which mention had been made, that scale | in. thick would affect the coal bill by as much as 20 per cent., was altogether inaccurate. As a matter of fact, a small thickness of scale in a boiler had little or no effect upon economy. The scale, of course, was undesirable for other reasons, and might lead to serious consequences, but there was no very serious objection from the point of view of economy. The author had made the assertion that the present period was a critical one for the Lancashire boiler, and that the next few years would decide whether it retained the position which it held to-day. In his (Mr. Sugden’s) opinion, the Lancashire boiler was not doomed, nor was it likely to be. There were more Lancashire boilers at work to-day than at any period in this and other countries, and there never was a time when more Lancashire boilers were being made. The author had stated that the combus- tion in a Lancashire boiler was deficient. Granted, but the statement applied to practically all furnaces. Never- theless, the internal furnace of a Lancashire boiler was more efficient than the external furnace of water-tube and similar boilers under like conditions of working. A square foot of heating surface in a Lancashire boiler was of about double the value of a square foot of heating surface in a water-tube boiler. For example, one square foot of heating surface in a Lancashire boiler would, under normal conditions, evaporate between 8 lb. and 9 lb. of water. In a water-tube boiler only between 4 lb. and 4| lb. of water were evaporated under similar conditions. Notwithstanding this difference in heating surface, the amount of water evaporated per lb. of coal was about the same in both types of boilers. Numerous independent tests established this. Then, the residual temperature of gases leaving a Lancashire boiler Under normal conditions of working was between 500 degs. and 650 degs. Fahr; and in a water-tube boiler, under similar working conditions, about 400 degs. or 500 degs. Fahr. Thus, in a Lancashire boiler, while the economy was about the same, there was a larger amount of heat avail- able for raising the temperature of the feed water, which was all to the good. Of course, each type of boiler had its advantages. A Lancashire boiler had a large steam and water reserve, but steam was raised more slowly; it took up a large space, and was not suitable where large units were required. A Lancashire boiler had about 25 square ft. of heating surface to 1 square ft. of grate surface. A water-tube boiler would get up steam quickly, and a large unit occupied a comparatively small space, and was more suitable for large units. A water- tube boiler had about 50 square ft. of heating surface to the square ft. of grate surface. A vote of thanks was passed to the author of the paper, on the proposition of the President, seconded by Mr. J. Fox Tallis. Notes from the Coal Fields. [Local Correspondence.] South Wales and Monmouthshire. Limiting Prices and Freights to France—Interviews with the Board of Trade—Important Change Suggested—Limita- tion Decided on, and Representative Committee Appointed—Eight Hours Act—Developing Collieries. The singular condition of things created by the Miners’ Federation objection to Lord Mackenzie’s suggestion is dealt with under ” Labour and Wages.” The complication attendant upon any attempt to interfere with the ordinary course of trade has been exemplified in striking fashion by the circumstance revealed in connection with the proposal to limit freights and coal prices for the French trade. We have already pointed out that the date suggested for a basis is not fair to the coal trade, and, indeed, it was nothing more than adoption of the date chosen for shipping, whereas circumstances were widely different. March 8 was a good date for the ship owner,-but for the coal owner it is not. The coal trade was at that time under a temporary depression; and as prices have risen since then the trade would be damnified by the selec- tion of an unfair date. Indeed, the proposal as originally mooted was seen to mean that the current price of the present time would be halved. But this is not tall. The coal prices offered would alone leave a loss, apart from contract obligations ; and the apparent intention seemed to be that the French would appoint one buying agent and thus oust the exporters from their business here. Repre- sentations upon this point brought about an assurance that the exporters would be retained, and there was a proposal that they should be (allowed a commission upon shipments, 5 per cent, on the price being suggested. Then there was the question of contracts already made; some French buyers having made agreements for supply at rates differing widely from those which the limitation would establish; and these arrangements ran forward over some months, the sellers on this side having chartered vessels, also at high rates, for carriage of the consignments. Here were both high price and high freight ; 'and what was the position of the French purchaser and the British seller and charterer to- be when the limitation became operative? Would the French Govern- ment, as responsible for the change made in the national interest, take over the contracts and meet the difference in freight rates? Further, what would be the position of neutral vessels, seeing that whilst the British Government had control over British craft, no restriction would operate against neutrals ; and that if the proposed refusal of bunkers was to be adopted as a measure of compulsion it might have the effect of keeping foreign vessels away and so intensifying the shortage that is so detrimental. The interview with Mr. Runcim-an last week made it clear that existing contracts would be adhered to, and he said that, so far from there being any wish to eliminate the exporters, he desired their co-operation, believing that the export trade could not be carried on without it. Lord Rhondda was present with the deputation, whose names were given in this column last week, and the interview lasted two hours, all the points being brought under review. The chairman of the committee which will be formed to assist Mr. Runcim-an in carrying out the scheme of limitation will be Sir D. M. Stevenson, with Mr. T. J. Callaghan as vice-chairman; and Mr. Stewart, of Glasgow, as secretary. One request made was that >as the time for consideration was so limited the new scheme should not come into operation on the 1st of June, as originally intended, but should be postponed. It is remarkable that in these deputations and in the proceedings consequent upon the limitation proposals, New- port was not directly represented. Heavy consignments of Monmouthshire coal go from Newport to France, so that the local exporters have direct concern in any matters that relate to our Ally; and, notwithstanding the fact that so Large a proportion of Monmouthshire business is transacted on Cardiff Exchange,, there is a strong feeling that the leading men in the trade at Newport should have taken care that the interests of their town were in full evidence. True, Mr. T. E. Watson, president of the Cardiff Chamber, is a Newport resident, with full knowledge and appreciation of requirements; but it is considered to be none the less strange that Newport Chamber of Commerce should have been quiescent when Swansea and Cardiff were alert. Following upon the understanding arrived at, a special meeting of the South Wales and Monmouthshire Coal Owners’ Association took place in Cardiff on Tuesday, Mr. W. H. Mewton in the chair. A letter from the President of the Board of Trade in regard to limiting the price of coal for France was read, and a committee was appointed with plenary powers to act on behalf of the association, this com- mittee to join in London on Wednesday the representatives from other coalfields, prior to a further meeting with Mr. Runciman So far as opinion can be gauged, it is in favour of making the new prices 10s. per ton above those existing immedi- ately before the war, a figure materially higher than Mr. Runciman’s suggestion of 20 per cent, below March 8 rates. The time charterers have also applied to the Board of Trade with reference to the proposed limitation of rates of freight, and Mr. Hopwood, assistant secretary in the Marine Department, met them on Tuesday. They urged that the scale of freights proposed by Government would constitute a serious injustice to them, and suggested (1) an alteration of the scale or (2; an understanding that existing contracts would stand. The position of the time charterers under the new limita- tion of freights is a serious one, especially for speculators who have taken up steamers for a period at some of the higher rates that have of late been ruling. As much as 60s. per ton per month has been mentioned in certain cases ; and if these charterers have to take cargoes to France at 20 per cent, below the rate ruling in the early days of March, very heavy loss will be occasioned. A meeting took place in Cardiff on Friday of time charterers alone to consider their position with a view to making special representations to the Board of Trade, but no definite resolutions were sub- mitted, the discussion making it clear that individual circumstances varied widely, and that it was necessary to arrive at a clear idea of personal position. Already some of the north-country speculators in this direction have met the Board’s officials in London, and they were desired to submit proposals from their point of view. It was to this that the Cardiff meeting gave attention. From the Bristol Channel ports a deputation was appointed to join repre- sentatives from other parts of the country with the purpose of conjoint 'action being taken. It may be noted that time charterers have very little sympathy from the trade, as it is believed that to these largely the excessively high rates are due, their taking up of the tonnage solely on speculative account having accentuated the market competition and increased heavily the rates against charterers requiring vessels for their cargoes. Swansea differs very much from that of any other coal exporting place, the shippers at that South Wales port being more direct representatives of the collieries. They render special service to the foreign purchaser because of their ability to make up just the mixture which the . buyer requires. French and Italian customers for anthracite send their orders, and it is necessary for the exporting agent on this side to see that the cargo is made up in such a way as to meet the particular requirements of the foreign purchaser. The suggestion that the miners should agree -to a modifica- tion of the Eight Hours Act during the period of the war has evidently aroused suspicion, and created some resentment. An important business transaction, which will in all probability have far-reaching results, has been completed at Llanelly, whereby the Glynea Colliery has been acquired by the St. David’s Tinplate Company. This colliery has been in existence for many years, and the new company have announced their intention of carrying out large develop- ments. A new company at Burry Bort has been registered under the title of the Ashburnham Collieries Limited, with a capi- tal of £3'0,000 in £1 shares, as important developments are pending. During the last fourteen years the pioneer of the operations at Cwm Capel has been Mr. John Rowlands, who, with the view of carrying on the work on a far more extensive scale, has been joined by Mr. Crawshay (of the celebrated Crawshay Bailey family) and Mr. George E. Bowen, the three gentlemen being interested to the extent of one-third each. A comprehensive scheme is already well advanced for the full development of the Caerhedvn and the Kenrhos seams. The necessary plant has been purchased, and a portion has already been delivered. A new slant has been driven down to the Gaerhedyn seam with the most gratifying results, the average thickness of coal being I ft. 3 in. The Kenrhos seam is also being proved with equal success. The plant will be capable of dealing with an output of 500 tons per day from each of the two seams, making 1,000 tons a day. There are also several other valuable seams in the taking, so that the possibilities of the new company are great. It should be added that the coal is of excellent quality and commands a ready market. In fact, a well-known mining expert declared a few months ago that the taking of this company was one of the finest in South Wales. Northumberland and Durham. Motor Ambulance Protest—Runaway Tubs—Pit Assault— Electrocuted—Relef Fund Report—Tyne Commissioners —Cartridge Penalty. After all, it would appear that the votes, adverse to levy- ing themselves for the provision of motor ambulances for the front, cast recently by the Northumberland and Durham miners, meant very little more than a protest against the State having left the provision of so important a palliative of the horrors of war to individual initiative. The Durham miners, who subsequently recalled their negative resolution, have now provided eight such vehicles, and Northumberland, too, has given its quota. The latest additions to the Northumbrian contributions are a motor ambulance car from the Ashington group of collieries and £660 in cash from the two pits at Broomhill. The Ashington men have handed over the car for the period of the war, and hope that it may be used in times of peace to convey injured miners to their homes or to hospital. The car has been placed in the charge of the V.A. hospital -at Ashington, -and the institution management proposes to run it for civil purposes locally, subject to the exigencies of the military situation. The miners promise to provide fully the means for its upkeep. At Tursdale Colliery last week, when the hewers in the Brockwell seam were riding in to the night shift on -an empty set of tubs, a rivet gave way near to the shackle in the haulage rope attached to the rear of the set, with the result that the tubs got out of control and ran rapidly down a steep incline for about 100 yds., being then thrown off the rails by overrunning the rope -attached to the front of the set. The men escaped serious injury. Judging by the frequency of recent prosecutions, the practice of hewing off the wall sides in Durham collieries -appears to be on the increase. If all the county magis- trates will adopt the line which is to be taken by those at Bishop Auckland, these offences will soon cease. At the Auckland court, when William Warburton and William Hodgson, employed at Leasingthorne Colliery, were fined 20s. each for malpractice, it was stated that that was the sixth prosecution of the kind this year from the colliery. In other courts the magistrates had dealt heavily with the offenders, and at one court a defendant was sent to prison. The owners’ solicitor asked the Bench to intimate that future offenders would be severely dealt with. The magis- trates made the statement desired.