1094 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN November 26, 1915. The only way open to secure State uniformity in this matter was for them, as mine inspectors, to take these matters up with their legislators at home, after agreeing together on certain points of uniformity. Mr. Beard had referred to the opposition of miners to any measures restricting their operations in the mines, and the similar opposition on the part of coal operators to such restric- tions as tend to increase the cost of production in the mine, although these might be necessary to obtain the greatest degree of safety. These two forces were con- tinually fighting each other in respect to the enactment of mining laws. Successful mine legislation could only be secured through the joint co-operation of operators and miners to secure the same end. The duties that devolved on the operator and miner respectively were alike necessary for the safe operation of the mine. The operator must see that his mine was well ventilated, the haulage roads in safe condition, independent travelling ways provided for the men to reach their working places, and employ competent mine foremen and fire bosses, and supply them with what- ever material is necessary for the safe operation of the mine. On the other hand, the miner must keep his place securely timbered, and take every precaution to avoid danger. While the law might impose these duties on miners and operators, it was up to those charged with the enforcement of the law to see its provisions carried out. In the enforcement of law, discipline was neces- sary, and that was a point for uniformity. Suitable penalties should be prescribed for the non-compliance with the law on the part of everyone connected with the operation of the mine. This was the first consideration in their efforts to secure greater safety in mining. With regard to uniform mining laws, he had studied carefully the codes of the different coal producing States, and found that the laws in most States were adequate if enforced. In his opinion, they had too many laws that were difficult to understand. In some cases the laws were so complex that the mine inspector was at a loss to answer a question relating to them until he had had time to sit down and go over the statutes. He believed in brevity and clearness, and that was another point for uniformity; but the enforcement of the laws they had was, in his opinion, of the greatest importance. Mr. Starks (Illinois) wished to say a word in regard to the interchange of certificates of competency between different States. The objection to such an interchange of certificates would arise from the fact that the stan- dards of examination in some States were more difficult than those in others. Some examining boards placed more emphasis on the practical side of mining, while others placed greater emphasis on technical questions in mining. Again, some examiners were easier in the examination of candidates than were others. The posi- tion of mine manager (foreman) in Illinois was well paid (about 150 dols. per month), while in adjoining States the same position was from 110 to 175 dols. per month. He believed the mine inspectors of Illinois would fight this question of interchange of certificates to the last ditch, for the reasons given. It would be diffi- cult to frame a law that would be acceptable to all in this regard. Mr. Flynn thought there was no need of any jealousy existing between the States on account of the rate of pay to foremen. In regard to the difference in the ques- tions asked by different State examining boards, these were practically. along the same lines. The style of questions, whether practical or technical, depended much on the mathematical training of the board mem- bers. While he did not consider that a mine foreman must be able to answer all the technical questions asked, in order to prove his competency to manage a mine safely, if a man knew these questions, and was able to answer them, it was better for him. That was one reason for an interchange of certificates and a more uniform standard of examination. Many questions were asked in examinations that had no bearing on the safe operation of the mine, and did not serve to determine the competency of the candidate to act as foreman of a mine. In fact, some of these question he, himself, had put to engineers who had been unable to answer them without referring to their text books. Mr. Beard said they must have intelligent mine fore- men, and must hire men who had had experience in gas, to fill positions in gaseous mines. In this respect he cared little whether they could pass a technical examination or not, if they had the necessary experi- ence in handling gas. It was better that the man had this technical knowledge—it made him a more compe- tent man. The question of an inter-State certificate for mine foremen and fire bosses would depend on the ques- tion of standardising mine examinations, so as to conform to certain specified conditions in the mine. He did not think that the right of every board to formulate its own questions and set up its own standard of conducting the examination should be questioned. In striving to secure greater uniformity in a few essential points in mine legis- lation, the question of detail should be laid aside. The chief question was what constituted the safe operation of mines under certain specified conditions. Those questions should be decided right there. He asked that they might have a committee appointed that would work in accordance with the suggestions of the institute and in harmony with the Federal Bureau of Mines, to the end that laws might be drafted on points they might deem essential to safe mining. Mr. Roderick (Pennsylvania) considered uniform mine legislation an impossibility. For instance, the State of Pennsylvania was governed by two sets of laws —one for the anthracite and another for the bituminous region. The anthracite laws could not be applied to the operation of the bituminous mines; neither could the bituminous laws be applied to the operation of the anthracite mines. Now, if it be impossible to apply a uniform code of laws to the mines in a single State, how could one frame a law adapted to the operation of the mines in all States where the conditions were very different? He thought they would all agree that the State of Pennsylvania was the pioneer in mining laws, in that country, and that the laws of the other coal producing States were .patterned largely after those of Pennsylvania. Some 12 years ago, the chief of the Department of Mines, at Harrisburg, presented to the legislature a code of laws that he considered would be a long step toward the unifying of mine laws, and, with few changes, they were enacted. However, there was still much contention over that code of laws, and many amendments had been submitted to the legislature the present year. There was always much difference of opinion as to what should be included in a code of mine laws. It might be possible to adopt a uniform code in a country under a single government; but in a union of States, each having its own form of government, but united under a Federal government, there were bound to be the State rights mentioned by Mr. Flynn. He believed that the mining laws of every State must deal with its own conditions. The conditions in Pennsylvania differed from those in Illinois, and the Illinois conditions differed from those in West Virginia. He himself came from a hard coal region, where they had all conditions varying from a flat seam to a vertical pitch. Mr. Beard had mentioned the need of defining what was meant in the law by a “ gaseous mine.” Some mines were so gaseous that it was unsafe to enter the shaft without a safety lamp; other mines were gaseous in certain sections, where safety lamps must be used, while it was safe to use an open light in other sections where no gas was generated. He recalled such an instance in his State this year, where an accident occurred in a mine, due to a sudden outburst of gas, which cost the lives of 13 men. There was an ample ventilating current, but the gas accumulated behind a heavy fall of coal where the current did not reach. At the inquest, the company was censured because they had not insisted on the use of safety lamps by the miners working in that section. The foreman testified that he had suggested that safety lamps be used, but had not urged the suggestion because of the dislike of the miners to be forced to use safety lamps in their work. In such a case nothing was said as long as nothing happened, but, in case of accident, it was at once asked, ” Why did not the mine inspector insist on the use of safety lamps in that section? ” In reference to the point that the anthracite law required that a candidate for examination for mine foreman’s certificate should have spent five years “ as a miner ” at the face, he would say that, while it was claimed by the union that the man must have dug coal for five years, the mine inspectors claimed that five years spent in general work throughout the mine, including mining coal, would make a better “ miner ” than to spend that time in digging coal. The inspectors believed that a general utility man, who had gone round the mines, setting timber where it was required, building doors, fixing roads, and doing other practical work, was much better fitted for mine foremanship than a man who had spent all his time cutting coal at the face. At their request, the chief of the Department of Mines referred this matter to the Attorney-General, who defined the word ‘‘ miner ” as any person working in the mine. By this decision, any man who had worked for five years in a mine, driving a mule, building doors, etc., though he never cut a pound of coal, was a miner in the meaning of the law. One point of difference between the anthracite and bituminous mines of Pennsylvania was that the anthracite mines always exacted a miners’ certificate of a man before he was given a place to dig coal, while there was no such requirement in the bituminous mines. It was these different conditions that operated against uniform legislation. Someone had said that one State would not care to copy or pattern its laws after another State, but he could say for Pennsylvania that they would be glad 'to adopt anything that was good. Pennsylvania had recently enacted a compulsory compensation law. In order to bring the anthracite miners under the com- pensation law, it was necessary to amend certain sections of the law, requiring that a mine foreman must hold a certificate of .competency granted him by an examining board. As long as that statute was in force, the miners could not come under the Compensation Act, for the reason that the law made the mine foreman responsible for accidents, and released the operator, who could not employ any but a mine foreman certified by the State. This question was submitted by the miners to one of the best attorneys in the State, who informed them that they could not come under the Compensation Act unless that clause was eliminated from the law. The law was therefore amended so as to make any persons having equal qualifications with those of a certificated mine foreman eligible to act in the same position. Under that law, the company might appoint a man to act as mine foreman, whom it considered equally competent as a certificated man who has passed the examining board. Mr. Beard (New York) had noted down several ques- tions they could discuss to advantage. The first question was : Should mine foremen, assistant mine foremen, fire bosses, and other mine officials be required to qualify by passing an examination before a duly organised examin- ing board? While such examination and certification was provided for in the mining laws of many coal mining States it was a fact to be regretted that the laws of other States made no such provision. Indeed, in some coal producing States, the question of mine legislation had not been considered separately from the general code, in which the matter was given little consideration. He suggested it was a matter worthy of the careful con sideration of the institute whether or not men holding these official positions in any and all States should be required by law to qualify by showing their fitness and competency to hold such positions. The second question was: What should be the character and personnel of such an examining board, and what should be required of candidates desiring to take the examination for a certificate of competency? He considered that was another important question worthy of careful consideration by the institute. They should be able to so classify conditions in mining as to outline what general requirements should be exacted of candidates for certain positions. They should con- sider how much technical knowledge a man should be required to possess to become mine foreman, assistant foreman, or fire boss. Also, how much practical experience a candidate should be required to possess, and of what nature. The third question was : What were the responsi- bilities of the mine foreman, assistant mine foreman, and fire boss, severally, and what authority had each of these in relation to their duties in the mine? It was clear that these men should possess the knowledge and experience that would fit them for their particular work. In some mines, the authority of the fire boss, in respect to gas, was supreme, while in other instances there was no such recognition in the law relating to the fire boss in his work. There had been much dis- cussion in the Press regarding the responsibility of the assistant mine foreman under the law, and it had been shown that the mine foreman and his assistant, and, in some cases, the fire boss, held only nominal authority in respect to their work, which was practically under the control of the superintendent or the manager of the mine; and in order to hold their positions, these officials must do as requested by their superior officers. This was also an important question. The fourth question was : Should the mine superin- tendent be required to qualify by taking an examination similar to that required of the candidates for inferior positions in mining? At present there was no qualifica- tion required of candidates for this position in any of the coal producing States. Although the superintendent had it in his power to control the operations of the mine, which were practically in his charge, it often happened that his practical mining knowledge was inferior to that of the mine foreman whom he employed, though his superior position and his relation to the mine foreman, who was supposed to carry out his orders, were such that it would seem that the requirements for the position should be as strict as those now required by law for posi- tions in the mine. The fifth question was : Would it be possible to form any general classification of mines with respect to dust, gas, and ventilation, with a view to enforcing more strict regulations in regard to the accumulation of dust in the workings and its treatment; the more thorough and frequent inspection of mines generating gas; and the more efficient ventilation of the working places by making certain specifications relating to the building of stoppings, brattices, doors and overcasts, so that the current of air entering the mine would be made to sweep the entire working face? The law should also specify clearly that the air current must not only be measured in the main intake and return, and at the mouth of each air split, but also at the inside cross cuts, to ascertain that the air current is doing the work intended. The President suggested that it would be better for each of these questions to be presented in the form of a resolution at a later time. A resolution was also adopted urging that, in order to secure the greatest degree of safety in operating coal mines, it was absolutely essential that candidates for the positions of mine foreman, assistant foreman, and fire boss should be required to qualify in respect of their fitness and capability to fulfil the duty of such position. (To be concluded.) Profit Sharing Schemes in 1915-15.—Since the publication of the Report on Profit Sharing in the United Kingdom in 1912, states the Board of Trade Labour Gazette, annual enquiries have been made as to the progress of the system. It appears that there were, on June 30, 1915, 153 firms in this country having some form of profit-sharing in operation in their business, as compared with 156 on June 30. 1914. Seven schemes have come to the knowledge of the Depart- ment since the publication of the annual statistics for 1913-14. Three schemes then included have now been definitely abandoned, and three have been temporarily sus- pended. The number of schemes added to the Department’s list this year is much smaller than last year, but it should be staged that many of those firms who were about to initiate a profit-sharing scheme have abandoned the idea on account of conditions arising out of the war. Of the seven new schemes, three have been started in gas companies, the most important group in which profit sharing is in force. Of the three firms stated to have abandoned profit- sharing, one gives “ incompatibility with trade union ideas ” as the reason of the abandonment. In the three cases of temporarv suspension, this course was taken as a result of the conditions now prevailing owing to the war. For the twelve months preceding the declaration of profits in 1914. the average number of persons in the permanent employment of the 153 firms known to have profit-sharing schemes of June 30, 1915, was 141.112. The amount allotted to employees under the 121 declarations of bonus which took place in 1914 showed 6*7 per cent, was added to the aggregate wages of the participating employees: 127 of the firms gave particulars as to the amount of bonus distributed bv them in 1914. The total amount for the 127 firms was £370.246, which was distributed among 71.268 emplovees, giving an average of £5 3s. lid. per participating employee.