THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN AND JOURNAL OF THE COAL AND IRON TRADES. Vol. CX. FRIDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1915. No. 2860. The Fauna and Stratigraphy of the Kent Coal Field. Dr. ARBER’S VIEWS. A criticism of Mr. Bolton’s paper on “ The Fauna and Stratigraphy of the Kent Coalfield ” (Colliery Guardian, June 18 and 25) was delivered by Dr. Arbeh at a meeting of the Manchester Geological and Mining Society on Tuesday in last week. He said he regretted Mr. Bolton was not present that afternoon, because it was always difficult to discuss a paper in the absence of the author. If Mr. Bolton had been with them he should have liked to ask him to state the evidence for several conclusions expressed in his paper, which appeared to him to stand quite unsupported at present. He also felt some diffidence in entering into a discussion, because no less an authority than Prof. Boyd Dawkins had already proclaimed in no uncertain voice that no room was left for doubt as to the justice of Mr. Bolton’s conclusions with regard to the classification of the beds; that none who really understood the principles of geo- logical classification could have a doubt on the matter. He (Dr. Arber) found himself somewhat in a difficulty because he ventured to disagree entirely with many of the conclusions .contained in the paper in connection with the stratigraphy of the Kent coal field; clearly, therefore, the suggestion was that he did not under- stand the principles of geological classification. To that suggestion he would simply reply that he had never been able to understand why Prof. Boyd Dawkins still held to the principles which he advocated in the matter of classification of the coal measures, in view of the results of recent research. Before going further into the matter he wished to express his thanks to Mr. Bolton for having given him a paper so full of new palaeontological material. Indirectly he (Dr. Arber) believed he had had a hand in it, because he recom- mended to the owners of the borings many years ago that the invertebrate fossils, the fresh water mollusca, occurring in the borings should be placed in Mr. Bolton’s hands for description. He also believed that some of the specimens described in the paper he had himself collected; at any rate, all the material for such studies was placed at the dis- posal of Mr. Bolton. But he was not competent to judge of the value of the palaeontological side of the paper and should, therefore, confine his remarks to certain questions with regard to the stratigraphy of the coal field. There were certain points upon which, he was thankful to think, they were all agreed. None had yet introduced the night- mare of the millstone grit in connection with the Kent coal field. Mr. Bolton also, he understood, supported him in the conclusion which he published for the first time last year that the coal measures of Kent rested unconformably on the lower carboniferous rocks. With regard to the differences of opinion, it must be borne in mind, in the first place, that this was a totally con- cealed coal field, and that anything he had said on these matters in the past was nothing more than purely pro- visional. The question had been approached from three different points of view. Prof. Boyd Dawkins appeared to rest his conclusions on lithological grounds, which in his opinion, was one of the weakest stones on which it was possible to build. Mr. Bolton based his conclusions on the inverte- brate remains, the fresh water mollusca. That class of evidence, he felt confident, would, in the future, yield very valuable results. He himself inclined to the evidence of fossil plants. Then again, there was a difference between two schools of thought, the old and the new, with regard to many questions in connection with the stratigraphy of coal measures, and he might almost say upon all questions with regard to the origin of and formation of coal. These matters were in a state of flux at the present time. The old school believed in the continuous sheet theory, that the Radstock, Kent, and Boulonnais coal fields were origin- ally united. The newer school did not say the continuous sheet theory was never true, but they asserted that many of our coal fields, especially those in the west and south of England, were ab initio isolated; they were never united one with the other. That view he strongly supported ; if any reliance was to be placed upon the plant evidence that fact must be regarded as already proved. He would take one simple illustration. Mr. Bolton said that he noticed that in the Kent coal field—of course, it happened in almost all the large coal fields—there was sometimes an underclay without any coal seam above it, and he regarded that as evidence of contemporaneous denudation. If Mr. Bolton really believed that, he should set out to prove it: MR. T. Y. GREENER X&La III f , ..J [Photo: Jas. Bacon, Newcastle* The New President of the North of England Institute of Mining and Mechanical Engineers. Mr. Thomas Young Greener, whose presidential address before the members of the North of England Institute of Mining and Mechanical Engineers was given in our last issue, commenced his professional career some 40 years ago under Mr. Thomas Donglas, the agent for Messrs. Pease and Partners’ group of collieries at Crook, county Durham. Mr. Greener then took up a position as assistant manager at the Pemberton Colliery, and after remaining there for about 18 months he accepted the position of surveyor and assistant manager, under the late Mr. Arthur Chambers, at the Thorncliffe group of collieries of Messrs. Newton, Chambers and Company Limited. Further experience was gained by Mr. Gre< nm- at the Bainford Collieries, St. Helens, Lancashire, where he was general manager for a period of about seven years. He then removed to the Hucknall Collieries, Notts, and was general manager there for six years, until in 1891 he returned to Peases West, Crook, to succeed Mr. Thomas Douglas, as chief agent of Messrs. Pease and Partners’ group of collieries. Towards the end of 1913, Mr. Greener took up a similar position with the South Moor Colliery Company Limited, Newcastle-on-Tyne, who have an important group of collieries in the Annfield Plain district of Durham County. Mr. Greener is one of the best-known mining engineers in the north country, and he has contributed numerous papers—chiefly on the subject of coke oven developments—to the Institution of Mining Engineers and the North of _ England Institute of Mining and Mechanical Engineers. probably when he looked into the matter he would find that the hypothesis rested on two false assumptions, and would relegate it to the limbo of half-forgotten myths, of which there were so many in connection with the origin of coal. The next point was that Mr. Bolton spoke of the surface of the paleozoic floor as a coal measure massif. The only use of the term massif he was acquainted with, at any rate in England, either geological or topographical, was to imply a mountain mass or a chain or group of mountains. He failed to see anything mountainous in the palaeozoic floor of Kent. On the contrary, as he endeavoured to point out in his paper on the Kent coal field published last year, the palaeozoic floor of Kent- was an inclined plane of an extremely regular type. Looking at the model published in Mr. Bolton’s paper, he could not see anything moun- tainous in the surface; neither did he see represented on that model the inclined plane which, beyond any doubt, existed in the field. One of the boldest assertions in the paper, and there were many bold assertions, was that the carboniferous limestone floor could not lie at a greater depth than 3,500 ft. Why? No reason of any sort, as far as he could see, was given in the paper. In his own paper published last year, he (Dr. Arber) pointed out that the thickness of the coal measures was at least 3,700 ft., perhaps 4,000, and to that must be added 1,000 ft. of cover. Was Mr. Bolton aware that his depth had already been exceeded in the Maydensole boring without going out of the coal—2,565 ft. of coal measures had been proved, and to that they must add 941ft. of cover, making it 3,506 below Ordnance Datum. He wished to call attention briefly to one or two state- ments about which there could hardly be any doubt as to Mr. Bolton's inaccuracy. The first one he-mentioned because he happened to be responsible for the records in permanent form of all these borings. Referring to the Trapham boring, Mr. Bolton said his (Dr. Arber’s) record of 450 ft. of carboni- ferous limestone at the lower part was “ certainly incorrect.” He had already dealt with that matter at some length in the Colliery Guardian for the previous week, and need not enter into it more fully. Another assertion was this, “ Dr. Arber does not recognise the existence of any of the lower measures at all.” From that it would appear that Mr. Bolton had not read either of his papers on the Kent coal field published last year. In the one on the geology of the field, a considerable space was taken up with a description of these lower measures. Then, in the paper published by the Geological Society, he took some pains to point out—in fact, to prove, for the first time—the existence of this middle coal measure horizon. Bnt perhaps the most unfortunate reference in the paper was to the work of one who, unfortunately, passed away some years ago— M. Marcel Bertrand, the French geologist, one of the greatest names in connection with work on coal measures. In his paper Mr. Bolton said the conclusion arrived at by M. Bertrand was that the trough passed under the Channel, that the Kent coal field might be an extension of that of the Pas-de-Calais, and that a further westward extension might be found in the coal fields of Bristol and South Wales. Well, he happened to know M. Bertrand’s great classic very well, and he could find no passage where anything of the sort was said. What M. Bertrand did say was this, that the folds governing these fields in France and England were continuous —but that was a very different thing from what Mr. Bolton suggested. M. Bertrand’s words were : “ The Dover coal basin is distinct from that of the Pas-de-Calais, and the axis of Northern Boulonnais (Saddle of Ferques) is not the pro- longation of the axis of Artois.” With that statement he cordially agreed. He had to confess that he could not follow Mr. Bolton in his remarks on the axes in the south-east of England. There was no doubt that most of those axes—he did not say all— were continuous across the Channel into France, and that they governed the coal field, but there was much doubt as to which folds in England corresponded to those in France. So far as the Kent coal measures were concerned, there was only one east and west anticline known at present. That formed the northern boundary of the coal field, and no doubt a similar fold limited the coal field to the south, but it lay far out to sea beneath the waters of the English Channel, and it was very unlikely they would ever know its exact position. But what about the north and south folds? Mr. Bolton’s paper was strangely silent on that point. Surely he did not overlook the existence of such folds, when they were an inevitable corollary of the east and west folds, particularly where they lay somewhat apart. What did he imagine bounded the coal field to the west? They knew already the north and south fold, and they could almost lay their finger on the western outcrop of the field. In his paper last year he ventured to point out certain reasons which led him to suppose that a similar north and south fold limited the coal field to the east, under the Straits