September 24, 1915. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. 619 =—SB constantly delivered by the air compression. Mr. Price Abell thought that a great step had been made by the introduction of turbine motors, driven by compressed air, such as the “ Spiro ” turbine, which appeared to lend itself to an auxiliary motor being fixed alongside the main one for use when chokes occurred. One of the main causes of neglect of the loss in compressed air was, that users did not realise that compressed air had the opposite characteristics of steam, in the fact that, the lower the air pressure, the higher the efficiency to be got from the use of compressed air—this resulting mostly through there being no efficient way of utilising the heat that it was necessary to extract, and dissipate from the air during compression. For greater efficiency, three points deserved attention :—Pipe leaks; a coal cutter capable of running, and getting through jams, at a constant low pressure; and a compressor that could utilise the heat now dissipated during compression. Mr. A. Lupton thought the loss by leakage was, as a general rule, controllable. There were other Sources of loss not so readily controllable, to which the attention of mining and mechanical engineers was being given. Of course, electricity threw compressed air into the shade for a time, and people had forgotten the discussions in which their fathers took part. Mr. G. Blake Walker thought that one moral which might be drawn from the figures which Mr. Mavor had brought before them—which, he must confess, were somewhat startling and unexpected in their intensity— was that if they were to use compressed air largely in fiery mines in the future they must get that compressed air very cheaply. Possibly they might, within reason- able limits of time, have means of producing it by using turbo-compressors, generated by either exhaust steam or by electric motors, which might enable them to give a much larger supply than any of the reciprocating con- veyors with which they were familiar. If it was desir- able that the fall of pressure should be minimised, then in the turbo-compressor they had a more efficient machine at a low pressure than they had at a high pressure. Of course, it was obvious that there were means of minimising the losses which mining engineers were accustomed to—by the use of pipes of very large area, and reducing the speed of the compressed air current; and he understood that Mr. Mavor stated in his paper that so far as the main junctions in-by were concerned, where these large pipes went to, there was a very much less loss than there was when they got beyond that point, and got into the workings, where the strata were more or less in a constant state of movement. It was largely a question of attention to maintaining their mains in as complete a state of efficiency as they could. He thought that there was very vast scope for getting better results from compressed air than they were obtaining at present. Mr. Gervase Cook said that as far as compressed air working coal cutters was concerned, 20 lb. pressure might be serviceable, but when it came to rock channels, where they had 30, 40, or 60 machines going at the same time, they could not do with less than 60 lb. There was no doubt' that there was a great loss from the leakage of pipes, rqore than anything else, in conveying it a long distance. Prof. Louis said Mr. Mavor had left out a method of compressed air measurement which he (the speaker) pre- ferred, which was the diaphragm method. He would like to draw attention to the Taylor compressor, one of which, he believed, was working in this country, and which promised to give an exceedingly cheap source of compressed air. He would also like to allude to the possibility of recovering a large amount of the energy lost in compression by reheating. He thought it was quite possible that electric re-heaters might be used, working inside the compressed air pipes. They might possibly be employed even in fiery mines. Gas Producers at Collieries. Mr. Mansfeldt Henry Mills presented a paper on “ Gas Producers at Collieries for Obtaining Power and By-products from Unsaleable Fuel,” which was taken as read. He remarked that owing to the war he had not been able to complete the paper, and he would add something to it before it appeared in the Transactions, (See p. 617.) Mr. Wild suggested that the author should deal with the question of the use of producers in connection with coke ovens. The producer plant would be able to act as a stand-by for keeping the ovens heated. In cases where a high value gas was required, possibly for house heating or anything of that kind, they would be able to fire their ovens by the producer gas, and so save rich gas, or have a larger quantity available for resale. The pro- ducer at the same time could be run with small coke, or waste, if they had any extra. Mr. Mills mentioned in his paper an engine for Denaby Main. It had been started up. that week, in connection with a 750-horse power engine and a producer plant. There had been a lot of troubles in the past with gas engines and pro- ducers, and in his opinion these were attributable to Hirty gas. At Denaby Main they had made exception- ally good arrangements for cleaning the gas, and he anticipated very little trouble there in consequence of that. Mr. G. Blake Walker thought Mr. Mills was abso- lutely and entirely right in saying that at collieries an immense amount of valuable material for the production of producer gas was wasted. If that material were turned to effect, as Mr. Mills suggested it should be, they would get their colliery consumptions down to 1 per cent, of the output. It would probably cost as little to put this wasted material into the producer as it did to put it over the tip. He thought that in these days they should turn all their output to better use than that of producing power. Moreover, there was the question of the recovery of by-products, to which many of them now looked almost more for their profits than they did to the coal itself. The great drawback to the introduction of large producer plants was their very considerable first cost. Whatever might be the case with a few large and flourishing concerns, the majority of collieries were generally rather hard put to it to raise a few thousand pounds for improvements that were very obvious and full of promise. A Leeds gentlemen said to him “ There’s money waiting for you to pick up; why don’t you pick it up? ” and the answer to that, in the case of producer plants, was that most of them had not got money for everything that they would like to do. But he was certain that in both Mr. Mavor’s and Mr. Mill’s papers the institution had before it subjects which would lead to the saving of a great deal of money; but whether all the savings that they could achieve by chemical and mechanical means would be sufficient to keep them afloat in these days of constantly rising wages, he could not say. Mr. A. Lupton said he entirely agreed with the writer that it was a great pity that batty and carbonaceous shales should be thrown away to waste on the top, because they were probably burnt there, and the burning did no good to anybody, but as a rule did a great deal of harm by sending forth nasty smoke. But, in leaving inferior coal underground, because it was not profitable to wind it to the surface, there was no waste of our national resources. They could not have a better keep- ing place than the pit, except in those comparatively small places where there was spontaneous combustion of the stuff that was left below. All the slack and car- bonaceous material that was left in the pit would be a great boon and blessing to their remote descendants 500 years hence, who would get it all out. They knew what could be done if they only had so much per ton. Supposing it cost them 8s. a ton to get an ordinary seam of coal 3 ft. thick into their railway truck, then, if they had a coal only 2 ft. thick, it would very likely cost them 16s. per ton, and if it was only 6 in. thick it would probably cost 30s. or 40s. a ton. But at the price that coal would be 500 years hence, that would be a very small matter to consider. Therefore all the coal left below ground, and said to be wasted, was coal that was saved. Votes of Thanks. Prof. Louis proposed a vote of thanks to the president and council of the Midland Institute of Mining Engineers for the admirable arrangements they had made for the meeting. He said it was, of course, no fault of the Midland Institute that they were in the middle of a terrible war, which had prevented the usual festive side of the gathering, and in so far they had had a certain difficulty. They had had a still greater diffi- culty in the sad and sudden death of Mr. Fryar, which they all deplored as a loss to the mining profession. Mr. Ashworth seconded, and the resolution was carried unanimously. Mr. Walter Hargreaves in reply said it had been a great pleasure to the council and members of the insti- tute to contemplate the visit of the association to Leeds. It was their first visit to that city, although they had been in Yorkshire before. Votes of thanks were also accorded to the owners of Maltby Main and Bentley collieries for granting per- mission to the members to visit their collieries on the following day, and providing refreshments, and to Sir Thomas Holland for presiding. On Thursday, September 16, visits were paid to Maltby Main and Bentley collieries. The following descriptions of these collieries were compiled by Mr. Alfred Thompson and Mr. Robert Clive, respectively. Maltby Main Colliery. The colliery is situated eight miles east of Rotherham and seven miles south of Doncaster. The area con- trolled by the company consists of about 9,000 acres of the Barnsley seam. The colliery is equipped to deal with 6,000 tons per day in two shifts. The sinking of No. 2 shaft was commenced on March 30, 1908, and the Barnsley seam was reached on June 18, 1910, at a depth of 2,460 ft. The last 1,200 ft. of sinking and bricking in No. 2 pit was accomplished at an average rate of 36 ft. per week. The quantity of water met with was 21,000 gals, per hour, which came from several springs, the bulk being within 200 yds. of the surface. During the sinking operations, the marine bands, which have occurred in each of the deep sinkings in South Yorkshire with remarkable regularity, were passed through. The workable thickness at No. 2 shaft bottom is 5 ft. 2 in., excluding the Bright coal, which is divided from the Main seam by 6 in. of dirt. The empty wagons are delivered by the South York- shire Joint Railway at the top of the empty sidings, and from there gravitate through screens into the stock sidings at an average gradient of 1 in 65, and thence into the railway company’s labelled sidings, which are not yet constructed. Winding Plant.—The winding engines for the upcast pit have cylinders 36 in. in diameter by 6 ft. stroke. The admission valves are 11 in. in diameter, and are of the Cornish double-beat type. The exhaust valves are 9 in. in diameter, and are of the Corliss type. These engines were erected for use in completing the last 1,200 ft. of the sinking, and for this purpose were fitted with a temporary flat drum. This drum has now been replaced by one of the semi-conical type, the small diameter being 13J ft., taking 5| laps of 1| in. rope, 3| of which laps are dead. The conical part consists of six laps rising to the parallel portion of the drum, which is 22 ft. in diameter and 7| ft. wide. The engine makes 37 revolutions per wind in 55 seconds. The downcast pit serves as the main coal-winding shaft. The engines have cylinders 44 in. in diameter by 7 ft. stroke. The admission valves are 14 in. in diameter, and are of the Cornish double-beat type. The exhaust valves are 9 in. in diameter, and are of the Corliss type. The drum is of the semi-conical type, and is of steel throughout. The smaller diameter is 17 ft., grooved to take six laps of 2 in. diameter locked-coil rope, three of which laps can be made live. The conical part rises in 14 laps to the parallel portion, which is 33 ft. in diameter and 7| ft. wide. The total weight of these engines and drum is 320 tons. King hooks are in use at both shafts, those at No. 1 pit being fitted with Barker secondary catches. The Wallace depth-indicator and overwinding safety gear have the advantage of being directly in view of the engineman, and have few working parts to get out of order. The machine is driven by means of a drag-crank on the horizontal shaft through the vertical shaft and the gear wheels. The cams are fixed to levers, which close the throttle and operate the steam brake, and are brought into line with the pins on the bicycle chain by the speed governor. The travel of this chain, in proportion, represents the travel of the cage. If the engineman should not reduce speed at the proper point, the cams remain in line of travel of the pins in the upward motion of the chain. The pins are placed at fixed points on the chain, so as to trip the gear at any number of revolu- tions from the flat sheets. If the engines should be started in the wrong direction, the gear is at once tripped, and the cage prevented from going more than 2| ft. above the flat sheets. In both cases steel rail guides across the centre of the shaft have been adopted in preference to rope guides. The cost of the guides in the upcast shaft was as under : Cost Total cost, per yard. £ s. d. £ s. d. Labour in building wall-boxes in the shaft; fitting up the guides complete on the surface, and their erection in the shaft ......... 1,885 15 8 ... 2 5 11 Material, including cement, mortar, wall-boxes, and guides, complete 3,758 19 0 ... 4 11 9 £5,644 14 8 £6 17 8 The conductors weigh 1101b. per yd., the web being thickened to allow for extra wear. The rails were cold- straightened by the makers, and were specified to be dead straight in lengths of 40 ft. The buntons, which measure 9 by 7|in., are of rolled steel joists, and are fixed across the centre of the pit at 10-ft. centres. The advantages which arise from fixing the buntons in the centre of the pit, as against a set of buntons on each side of the pit, are that it is impossible for the cages to collide, and a better bond is obtained in building the wall boxes in the shaft. The wall boxes are of cast iron, and of two sizes, the larger one being made with extra depth to allow of the insertion of the bunton and its withdrawal into the smaller box on the opposite side. These boxes are placed alternately on either side of the shaft, and are filled with cement concrete. The joint straps consist of a cast steel slipper, which embraces the flange of the rail. One side of -the slipper is cut away, and a machine-tapered wedge is inserted. This wedge is a driving fit, and is further held in posi- tion by two bolts on each side of the joint. The inner bearing surface of the joint strap is milled out so as to make a perfect fit for the rail flange. The sole plates consist of a drop forging, machined to take the flange of the rail and the bunton, both of which are punched to receive the four securing gib bolts. The pocket bolts are to secure the bunton in the pockets, the former being slotted so as to allow of a lateral movement, and the latter to allow of an end movement. The cage slippers were in the first instance of phosphor bronze, but the wear was much too rapid, and a cast steel slipper is now being adopted, with a renewable lining of slightly softer material than the guides themselves. The air lock is constructed of brickwork. The roofing is made of railway sleepers laid on girders, the whole being covered with concrete. The air lock doors are of the balanced type, both deck doors working on the same shaft. The top deck door, being smaller, opens inwards, and the larger door on the bottom deck out- wards. The extra area on the bottom deck door keeps both closed, and as the door on the -top deck opens with the pressure, very little power is required to open them. When the fitting-up is complete, levers will be so arranged that both sets of doors can be operated from one point by means of a small engine. After leaving the air lock, the full tubs gravitate to the tippler, and the empties run back to the creeper, which lifts them suffi- ciently high to allow them to gravitate on to each deck of the cage. The cages are fitted with 2 decks with tilting bottoms, each deck carrying three tubs. The decking, both top and bottom, is simultaneous; at the top the full tubs are lowered to the bottom deck by a drop cage, while the empties are separated for each deck at the top of the elevating creeper. At the empty side of the pit at the surface, tilting cradles to hold three tubs are fixed at each deck. These will be operated by small hydraulic cylinders fixed below. As the cages drop on the fallers, the bottoms are tilted and the catches released. At No. 2 shaft bottom simultaneous decking is accom- plished by drop cages worked by hydraulic power. For the full-tub decking cage, the power pipes are connected to the lodge at the 368-yd. level, by which sufficient pressure is obtained to lift the empty cage to the top deck level. Three full tubs give sufficient extra weight to force the water used in this lift back to the same lodge, and also to lower the loaded cage to the bottom