272 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. August 6, 1915. in this country many people did not care to have the second- class coal. Therefore, with a colliery it was of advantage, if they had a seam in their take that they could work cheaply, it paid to work that seam, because whatever tonnage they got there bore its share of the standing charges of the colliery. If such a seam was closed, as it had been in some cases by the war, it evolved an increase in the cost. Contracts, as a rule, were not made with a foreign buyer; they were made f.o.b., Goole or Hull, and they were English factors who took them. That was the custom of the trade for export coal in West Yorkshire. The difference now was in favour of rail. By rail to London 7s. 3d. was the railway rate, and there was Is. 3d. for wagon hire, making 8s. 6d.; whereas, the same coal vid Goole was charged Is. 9d. by rail to Goole, and by ship to London in normal times it was 4s. It was now 12s., and it had been up to 14s. So now the man who had got a contract at a fixed price naturally tried to send it by rail. From the colliery point of view, the railways have not done as well as they would have liked. They might have done extremely well under the circumstances, but the collieries have suffered very much indeed. The delay in wagons was enormous. Whereas ordinarily they could run a wagon from West Yorkshire to London and back within a week or 10 days, it was now three weeks. Even where wagons were loaded they could not be taken out. For instance, only a fortnight previous, in a neighbouring colliery, 27 wagons were taken out by the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway to put on to the Midland system to London, but they came back and were not taken. A fair amount of West Yorkshire coal went down to places like Portsmouth, and if it had to go vid London, it might be hung up in depots near London because it could not get any further. They had supplied coal to the Admiralty and to the War Office in times past, but it had always been shipped to London. But during this period they had done what they had never done before, that was, they had sent coal by rail to Chatham. The railway company supplied the wagons because they were ordered by the military authorities; no colliery would send its own wagons down there. For the same reason the merchant who had to rely on rail borne coal could not get it regularly. In the contracts made last year it was provided that, except for a strike, the amount taken was to be so much a month. It was a total quantity, but any not taken in a given month was cancelled. It was very hard in practice to find out the amount of free coal at the disposal of any given colliery for that very reason. Speaking quite generally, witness thought the amount of contract coal so converted was quite negligible. Most collieries had a considerable number of wagons of their own. In addition to that, merchants and factors sent their own wagons for coal, and also other people purchased in railway companies’ wagons. The colliery companies would not send their own wagons to London. If people sent in their own private wagons, the collieries would fill them, but they would not send their own wagons; they would rather keep them for shipping and the local supply. In shipping contracts there is a definite figure mentioned, so that if the purchaser desires coals in wagons it would be at a certain price. It sometimes happened that a London merchant might be supplying coal to the north of London. If it was shipped, there was the transport from the docks to the north of London. Therefore, in certain circumstances he had the option of taking his coal either by ship or rail. The price was agreed if he should do so. When they supplied by rail to London it was in the railway company’s wagons. There were one or two collieries in the west of Yorkshire which had a very high-class quality of house coal, and they did supply in merchants’ wagons, but the greater number of collieries supplied to London by ship. The Contract Basis. Witness thought that when the question of making new contracts came up the absolute price at a time like this at the pit head would have very, little influence upon the contracts. It depended a good deal on the margin of coal available. In contracting, each side did its best to estimate for the future. They had nothing to do with railway contracts; the coal of West Yorkshire was not a steam coal like the South Yorkshire coal. Witness said there had recently been more dead work because of the reduced output. If the pit was standing there was more harm done than when a coal face was advancing constantly and the coal was got out. If a pit was stopped for three or four days there was an immense amount of work then in clearing spaces for men to work in because of the falls. The slower the face travelled the greater amount of dead work there was to be done. Therefore, having fewer men in the working faces meant that the working faces were travelling more slowly and there was actually more dead work, and with the reduced number of men working the proportion of dead work was higher. Mr. Holiday said their contract prices Were based on the cost of production. First of all in the cost of production standing charges was an item they must take as to what they could produce coal at. Then, any quantity in excess of that which paid standing charges meant the spreading of those charges over a larger output. Therefore in the first place, in fixing contracts, one had to reckon what quantity of coal must be got out, roughly, to cover standing charges. Then they tried to fix that by contract so as to ensure the working of the pit. Then after that, if they still produced any more they tried to get a higher price if possible in order to get more profit; but, when times were bad and trade was falling generally, they even fixed contracts at a slight loss, because that quantity ensured the regularity of working of the pit; and to have that quantity as free coal uncontracted for, with the market in an unstable condition, might mean working the pit much less time, and therefore the loss would be greater than by actually fixing the contract at a slight loss. It might be that one man wanted to buy 40,000 tons. Now they know that this man took his coal absolutely regularly, and if they fixed with him they were absolutely certain of that output, and it might mean one or two days a week work of the pits. Consequently they were prepared to suffer a slight loss on that, because if they did not, they might have 40,000 tons in a market that was dropping, and the pits might not work the calculated time per week, and therefore the loss on standing charges would be greater. In West Yorkshire particularly there was such a wide range in regard to the actual physical qualities of the different seams, that it meant there were differences in prices. But in any given seam of coal there was not such a wide range. In a few seams there were considerable differences in quality of the same seam as worked in West Yorks. It should be mentioned that in taking into account the amount they could contract for, some collieries made a very large amount of slack because their seam was a friable seam, and that went at a low price for coking, for which purpose it was only suitable. So that affected the average pit price considerably. Witness agreed that in some cases of coal supplied to districts where the railway freight was very low in consequence of being near the pits, and so on, the pit price would be higher, and that the price at the pit head varied according to the amount which it would afterwards bear for railway freights. A gasworks or a mill which was near a colliery could not get coal except by buying it from that colliery. It could not get coal elsewhere without paying freight, and so that was the market value of that coal. On the other hand, if there was a number of collieries who had all equal rates, but rather low rates, they would all be competing against one another, and they would supply to a mill that was near at a lower price than they would supply to a mill that was 30 miles further from the pit. Where prices were high the merchants and factors knew perfectly well what the price of coal was in the open market, and that the colliery owners knew it, and they came straight