July 30, 1915. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN 221 owner of the coal at the pit’s mouth may apply to the Board of Trade for an extension of that period and the Board of Trade may, if they are satisfied that there are special reasons in the case in question for such an extension, extend the period for such time as they think just under the circumstances, and the period as so extended shall in such a case be the period fixed under this provision. (3) This Act shall not apply to coal raised in Ireland. (4) This Act may be cited as the Price of Coal (Limitation) Act, 1915. (5) This Act shall have effect during the continuance of the present war and a period of six months thereafter. RETAIL COAL PRICES. We continue in this and following issues a digest of the evidence given by witnesses heard before the Com- mittee appointed by the Board of Trade to enquire into the causes of the present rise in the retail price of coal sold for domestic use. The Lancashire Coal Trade. Mr. W. H. Hewlett, general manager of the Wigan Coal and Iron Company, was called on March 12. He said his company differed from certain other collieries, inasmuch as it supplied consumers direct through 125 sub-branches. He was also chairman of the Lancashire and Cheshire Coal Sales Association, which was a consultative body more than any- thing else. About five-sixths of the Lancashire collieries were associated. They were not very closely banded together; it was only by mutual interests. When prices were falling, and when there was a difficulty in vending the whole of the coal, there was a good deal of backsliding. Anything which was done in the nature of trying to keep up prices from slumping unduly was very often rather interfered with by defections from their own body, who simply sold under what they considered to be a fair and reasonable price. In such a market as they had had lately, their functions had been rather of a restraining Character. The price in Lancashire for 16 months was uniform, up to February 1, and then they put on lOd. per ton. If it had not been for the Sales, Asso- ciation the price probably would have been very much beyond that. The association did not fix the pit head price, but the price absolutely to the consumer. The price to the consumer was fixed at Manchester, Liverpool, Blackburn, Bolton, and Preston, very large towns in Lancashire, and the public could buy at each of these different places. In regard to the pit head price, it was a matter of bargain really. Of course, with collieries who sold direct, these prices, to get at the pit head price, would have to have the expenses of the yards, railway rate, and wagon hire, and so forth, deducted from them, and then they found the price which was realised by the colliery proprietor. But where they sold to a merchant, it was a matter of bargain as to what he would pay. He wanted a certain margin for his services, and it was a matter of bargain as to what price he would pay at the pit head so as to allow him a sufficient margin for his work and business. Witness said the Mining Association of Great Britain did not deal with commerce at all, and there was no society of mine owners that embraced the whole country for commercial purposes. Perhaps Mr. Maurice Deacon’s society in Derby- shire approached their own society most nearly. That was the only one he knew of, as they were not brought into con- tact with any other body to any great extent. The only thing which really affected them in Lancashire was the com- petition that came in from other districts to the areas they supplied. Of course, that did not apply in South Wales, or in Durham or Cumberland, or in Scotland, but to some extent it applied with regard to the Midlands, and there they sometimes came in, and, if there was more coal than the market could hold, they dumped it into their district. They had no such thing as a colliery which contracted on a large scale with merchants and factors. In Lancashire he could say, without any qualms of doubt at all, that if they had been dealing with middlemen, the price would have gone up by more than lOd. per ton. In some parts of England fancy prices 'might have been paid for small quantities outside con- tracts, but where that had been so it had often been thought it did not really very appreciably affect the average selling price to a particular person. He knew of no large transac- tions dealt with in that way. From the Lancashire collieries of the Wigan Company the output in 1914 was 1,910,000 tons, and of that they sold 518,000 tons as house coal; 1,564 men had joined the Colours out of 11,332, or 13-8 per cent.—that is, of the whole of the company’s employees, men, women, and children. Of eligibles, 24 per cent, had joined. The diminu- tion in output was rather higher than the diminution in men—about 15 per cent.—and it was very largely due to the bad working of the men. There was a great deal more absenteeism now than had been the case. Unfortunately it was following the usual practice, that when the men earned high wages they did not attend as constantly to their work. Costs of working had gone up considerably, but witness could not state the increase in terms of so much a ton. The same standing charges and other expenses of that nature had to be divided into a smaller number of tons, because every day the output was falling off. He should say a shilling would be nearer the mark than 2d. or 3d. There had been so many things which had helped in regard to the question of increased cost. There was the increase of labour itself; because, although the colliers had not had a definite advance recently, yet in all sorts of little ways there were various requisitions which they had to fulfil day by day, more surface charges and different odds and ends of that nature appertaining to the pits. Then, of course, timber had gone up very much indeed. Mr. Hewlett said it had not been his experience that a considerable number of collieries had declined to execute the whole of their contracts on the plea that their output was diminished. His own company determined to execute their contracts to the full extent of their ability, and had reason- ably and fairly carried that out. In the general conditions of sale their strike and accident clause that exonerated them from responsibility of delivery from accident or other unavoidable cause made it obligatory on both sides that the contract was only suspended—it was not cancelled; so that they came to the conclusion that it was better to have done with it. As a consequence they had very little free margin. Witness said they sent no coal to London. They did at one time, and the practice was kept until they found they could not sell it; but they had kept on the business as merchants. A considerable change had taken place in the quality of coal used in London, a change not altogether for the better. He did not say that was universal, but he was speaking of the popular coal used in London. Witness said a great deal of coal was sold in Lancashire to the consumer through co-operative societies; he should say that half the cottage coal was sold through the co-operative societies. His firm did not supply these co-operative societies very largely. They militated against them rather than otherwise where the firm had their own yards, and they did not naturally seek them as an outlet to any large extent. The co-operative price was generally a little higher, perhaps a halfpenny a hundredweight higher ;• the co-operative prices in bags were from lOd. to Is. 3d. per ton more than those of the ordinary dealer; but they gave back a dividend of 2s. or 2s.- 6d. in the £, as the case might be, and that being taken into account, it meant that the consumer paid a little less in the aggregate for his coal. Turning to the question of transit, witness said they had a large number of wagons of their own—about 6,500. The work those wagons had done had been lessened during the winter to the extent of from 20 to 25 per cent. The railways did what they could. The North-Western had been rather worse in that respect than the Lancashire and Yorkshire, to whom they paid, he supposed, about £3,000 a month, as against £10,000 to the former. But the latter had not the through traffic, and had not been called upon quite to the same extent for the movement of troops and munitions of war. The falling off in rapidity and efficiency of their wagon service might be taken as from a day to a day and a half a week. For instance, if a wagon performed its journey usually within five days, it would take six days or perhaps a little more to complete its journey now. He was speaking, naturally, of the whole average of the wagons, but there were instances where wagons got lost in the oblivion of the past almost. They had stock at the pits, and could not get it to the consumers, because if they filled up from stock one day they had to put it down the next in consequence of there being a scarcity of wagons. Then again it increased the cost to the colliery as distributors or to the merchants, in this sense, that if wagons did not turn up as they were expected, horses and carts had to wait about with nothing to do, and sometimes in order to supply the consumer they had to make two or three journeys to keep them going. Mr. Hewlett thought that as the retail price in Lancashire had only been advanced 10d., it could scarcely be considered to be high as compared with the previous rates and with other districts, and it was likely the advance was no more profitable to the colliery than the preceding prices with the previous costs, full out-turn, regularity of transit, and there- fore the lower working costs at distributing centres. Transit trouble bringing irregularity of supply at once seriously enhanced cost of distribution. The law of supply and .demand was, of course, inexorable, but unless there was some alteration in circumstances the demand would fall off. Although prices much remain relatively high, yet it did seem that within a very short period there would be no continuance of extreme prices, especially if the colliers could be induced to work with greater regularity. That, he laid great emphasis upon. There had been pressure for industrial coal in Lancashire, and, of course, higher prices had been paid by people for any little extra quantity they had required, but he should not say there had been anything of a very extreme nature. He had no doubt the gas companies were looking forward with some degree of apprehension as to the extra price that they would have to pay for additional quantities for the next year’s contracts. There was scarcely any coal but what was suitable for two things. The higher class of coal was suitable for either house purposes or gas purposes; that was the bituminous gassy coal. Some of that was, perhaps, sent in little larger quantities to the gas companies in summer than in winter. Then there was a coal which could either be utilised for house purposes, of what they might call a medium quality, or for the supply of locomotives, the supply of bunker coal to steamers, and so forth, so that it eked itself out in that way. Factories were fed mostly with slack, and that was interchangeable between industries and coke-making, and so forth. In saying that, he did not expect a state of things under which the supply would exceed the demand. Witness added that the gas coal people last year delayed their purchases till the last moment, and when they made their purchases they made them rather on the short side, thinking they would get their extra quantities at a lower rate. The war broke out, and difficulties had occurred since; and consequently they had had to pay, for any little extra they wanted, very largely increased prices. Now this year it might be they would want to come into the market so much earlier because they might fear that delay would make them pay more. But he did not see how a prudent man could enter into a contract at that moment until he knew more about what was going to happen with regard to the attitude of the men. So that contracts would be postponed, from the colliery owner’s point of view, however anxious the person who wanted to buy might be. Referring to the ascertained prices under the Conciliation Board agreement, witness said it was astonishing what very slight advances in proportion there had been upon these figures, as to the actual cost realised, having taken all the contracts and everything into account. In the month of December as against November there was only a penny per ton difference in the realised value. Witness said the class of coal which he had referred to was bought on sliding scale. In all their contracts of late years—since the Sales Association was formed—they in Lancashire entered into contracts with the merchants for the supply of house coal based upon certain figures which were a matter of bargain at the time; but if there was a change of price during the period when that contract ran, for every lOd. they put on they did not charge the merchant more than 8d. If it was the other way about, for every lOd. taken off he only got 8d. taken off his price. But almost all their trade for house coal was direct. Taking gas coal, they supplied a large quantity, about 300,000 tons a year. All that is done direct as well. Witness explained how this system had originated. Year in, year out, they used to have fixed contracts with merchants. When that system applied, of course, when the market went up it was all right for the merchants, but when the market came down, during the period when the contract was running, it was difficult to make people, especially small people, carry out their contracts; so that they considered it was very much fairer that we should let them participate—that their interests and those of the collieries should be identical practically. With merchants they did make contracts for house coal, but it was only on the question of quantity. There was a fixed contract price. The merchant said the “ price of coal is so much to the consumer, and I must have it at so much to pay my expenses.” The colliery owner said, “ I think that leaves me too little a price, and I want more.” The higgle of the market determined it. But if in the course of the contract, after it was settled, the market went up or down, then the sliding scale came into operation. Some of the main seams of household coal ran through a number of collieries, and the cost of production and raising that coal, in some of the older-fashioned collieries, was much higher than it was in the modern collieries. But they had coal dumped into Lancashire from Yorkshire and all parts, and had to take the price that could be obtained for that quality, and if a pit did not pay, it did not pay. The company have about 30 pits, and witness supposed 8 or 10 of them did not pay at all. Some had to be closed down lately, because the loss entailed was too serious to be borne. In some places when a colliery had passed its zenith, when it got an enormous way out, and only a small quantity came to the district, and they had to keep roadways open for a comparatively small output, it was so expensive that the time came when there must be no reasonable hope of an improvement; then they closed it if they could do so. There were certain rents, from the landlord, and other obligations which had to be borne in mind. They could not fix the price, unfortunately, on the average pit; they had to fix it from the end where the quantities were put into a particular market and in competition from other districts, and cn tie price which could be obtained for that commodity; and if a sufficient price could not be obtained to enable tl at particular pit to pay, it either had to go on suffering the loss as far as it could with the hope of improvement, or close Witness said the best class of coal from Lancashire at one time came to London. They had other coal appertaining more to the Warwickshire description, but not quite so lad. The people in Manchester and Liverpool would not burn rather bore on the question of house coal, and that was the very largely increased use of gas stoves in Lancashire. That had affected the question of house coal consumption very materially. Witness mentioned that under the contract forms which they had in other cases the cancelling of the quantity was one of the conditions; and he was not sure that was not the proper way to do it. In fact, they had under considera- tion at that moment whether they would change their form as to conditions of purchase and sale to that extent. In connection with wagons, it was customary for the colliery proprietor to execute contracts in their own wagons; it was either in their own wagons or the dealers’ wagons. The railway company did not find wagons. It was a matter of bargain at the time the contract was entered into. In almost nine out of ten cases, or 95 out of 100, the collieries supplied their own wagons. Witness stated that at their Nottinghamshire pits they did not raise any household coal; it was all industrial. Referring to the delays in transit, Mr. Hewlett said he thought the average wagon hire for the distances they ran would be about 6d., so that the extra cost would be about a third of 6d. Of course, if we had to buy wagons now they were very costly. Witness did not think the merchants were in a position to put on an abnormal price in the face of so many wharves, where coal could be got direct at these prices. He knew of no. instance where merchants were getting so much higher prices than the list prices. It was witness’s opinion that if the same opportunities of transit had been current as usual the coal in London would never have arrived at anything like the price it had. One ton less than the market could absorb always affected the price in an upward direction. It was a question of that little fine point between the actual supply and the actual demand; that naturally everybody was wanting that extra ton or everyone was going short in the other case. There was a good deal of coal came in on the Manchester side from Yorkshire and Derbyshire. Liverpool would depend on Lancashire very largely. Sometimes, especially in the Wirral peninsula, it drew from North Staffordshire. Prices went by shillings in Liverpool, as against t^npence in Manchester. Witness said the 15 per cent, diminution in output was only in the Wigan area. In Notts they had been increasing. At Manton they had laid out £100.000 to increase their outnut. They were now raising 10.000 tons per week. It ought to have been 15.000 tons, but quite 30 per cent, of the men had gone or intended to join the Colours. (To be continued.) A particularly mean prosecution was that which resulted, at Gateshead last week, in the conviction of Wm. Yielder, of Emmaville. Ryton, of having, on February 18, for the purpose of continuing an old age pension of Is. per week, made a false representation as to the amount of his income. The old man. it was alleged, had informed the pension officer that he received 4s. per week compensation from the Stella Coal Company, whereas, as a matter of fact, he got 5s. 9d. and house and coals. He had been in the company’s employment for 60 years, and was given an exemplary character. He was fined £2 0s. 6d., and will, of course, forfeit his pension. The case is on a par with those mentioned by Messrs. Wing and Galbraith in the House of Commons recently, in which residents in the aged miners’ homes which have been erected in the countv of Durham bv the joint efforts of the miners and coal owners, are denrived of their pensions, in some instances, because the estimated, value of their house and coals raises their income ” above the pensionable level. It is amazing that the State should so penalise honest old men who have given their best vears to the service of the community in so arduous and hazardous an occupation as coal-getting. Partnerships Dissolved.—The London Gazette announces U»e dissolution of the following partnerships :—Walter James Rutter and Lysaght John Rutter, surveyors. 10. Norfolk- street, Strand, London; Emma Jane Whiteley and John Rilev. blacksmiths. Ogden-lane. Rastrick: Georgiana Eliza- beth Toplis. Albert Edward Sabine. Beatrice Jane Allen, and Walter Harold Sabine, machinists. Swadlincote, Derbvshire, so far as concerns Georgiana Elizabeth Toplis and Walter Harold Sabine: Robert Redman and Herbert Alfred Bessemer, electrical engineers. 32, Torwood-street. Torquay: J. Linlev and W. H. Bucklev, engineers, brass finishers, and smiths, at Farrow-street. Shaw, near Oldham, Lancaster, under the style of Linley and Buckley.