610 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. March 19, 1915. meant 338,000 shifts for each fatal accident from falls of roof. He ventured to say, having regard to the nature of -the risk, that such a figure was one that neither managers nor miners had any need to be ashamed of. Mr. John Gerrard said the paper was a very valuable addition to the literature on the subject. With regard to inclination, he thought in a steeply inclined mine greater care ought to be taken in placing the timber than in a less inclined mine. .’In his opinion, there was con- siderable danger in the withdrawal of tim'ber, and more use should be made of the safe distance withdrawing appliance. - There were too many cases in which the very short steel hammer was used, bringing the miner into close proximity to the prop, involving serious risk from fall of roof. With regard to Mr. Orchard’s obser- vations on the low death-rate from falls, he had not looked at the matter from that point of view. He would like to see the number of fatalities from that cause reduced, and one means of bringing it about was by the adoption of systematic timbering efficiently carried out. The question of supervision was one calling for atten- tion. He gathered that Mr. Siddall’s suggestion ■ was not the adoption of the Durham system of all timbering being done by deputies, but rather the appointment of a man, additional to the deputy and the fireman, whoso duty would be to supervise the setting of the timber. In mines where the roof was bad, good results would follow if. more careful supervision was exercised. He was not going to. say that a fireman had too much to do, or that the districts were too large—some firemen said they were, but then some firemen were not as energetic as others. .Still,, they should not have too much to do, and their work should be so apportioned that they could effectively supervise the whole of the men working in the mine. On the motion of the Chairman, the discussion was adjourned to a subsequent meeting. . Mining Education. A discussion followed on the paper on “ Mining Educa- tion,” read at the last meeting by Mr. Noah Williams, who announced that five mining engineers from South Wales and the Director of Mining Education for the Glamorgan County Council (Mr. Davies), who were visiting Lancashire for the purpose of investigating the system of mining education, had asked permission to be present at the meeting. The Chairman having extended a hearty welcome to the deputation, Mr. Davies said they had come North to perform some research work in connection with mining education, and. he had already learned enough to appreciate how little he knew in that direction. What struck him very forcibly in regard to mining education Was that there were two directions in which their efforts should be turned; ,A careless miner , might wreck the plans and ideals of the cleverest mining engineer, and therefore it was essential that the education of the miner should be: attended to just as much as the education of the mining engineer. They did not want an educated miner unless they got a'better miner, and to attain'that object attention should be paid to the human side as well as the scientific side. It was only by studying the human side that they would produce an intelligent and careful miner. He incidentally mentioned that every student at the mining school in his district had volun- teered for active service. ; Prof. Garnett, of the Manchester School of Tech- nology, said the principal point in Mr. Williams’ paper was the need for more co-ordination in mining education. In his opinion, one reason for the lack of co-ordination was to be found in the statutory provisions dealing with education. The Act of 1902 did a great deal to improve organised education in England. It brought secondary education under ' larger authorities 'than ‘ elementary education, so that while a small borough or urban district might be responsible for its own elementary education, the,organisation of secondary education was in the hands of the large county or county borough authorities. It should have gone further, and laid down that while a larger authority was needed for secondary than for elementary education, a still larger authority was required for university, or technological education. In other words, they ought to have one large authority covering, say, Lancashire, Cheshire, and Derbyshire, dealing with technological education, which would be the means of securing co-ordination right through from the classes in the mining village up to the great central colleges, like the college at Wigan and the Manchester School of Technology. Last summer a scheme was mooted for widening the basis of the governing body of the School of Technology in Manchester by taking in representatives of other higher education authorities, and making it a college for the whole of the North-West of England, but owing to -the war the matter had been allowed to stand- over. Meanwhile, however, there was one authority which could co-ordinate the mining education of the dis- trict, and that authority was the Manchester Geological Society. Something might be done in that direction if the. Society were to invite representatives of the Lanca- shire County Council, the Manchester School of Technology, the Mining College at Wigan, county boroughs”specially interested in mining, such as St. Helens and Burnley, and perhaps representatives, of one or'two‘ other central institutions, to take part in the discussion of. a scheme which would cover the whole range of mining education from the schools for th’e ..working miner, the part-time day schools for apprentices pr vounger persons, right up to the higher work in colleges or universities. The curriculum should not, in his opinion, be devoted purely to mining subjects, but should include chemistry and engineering, in order to enable the men to deal with such problems as the utilisation of by-products, and so on. Mt. Williams seemed to make a very valuable distinction between the education of the working miner, corresponding in engi- neering to the tradesman, and the mine manager corre- sponding perhaps in engineering to the technical man. They had suffered in their technical education to some extent from an idea that there should be a number of courses extending over seven or eight years leading consecutively from a course for boys of 14 up to a course foremen of 21 or 22. It was better for a youth who knew he was going to continue his education until he was 21 or 22 not to be attending evening classes at 14; he should go on with his secondary education until he reached 16 or 17, and then enter evening classes. He recognised that a system which was to cover the whole field must be democratic, and ought to be so arranged as to make it possible for the brilliant boy to get to the top of the tree. 'The Geological Society, if it was sufficiently wealthy, could help such a Scheme by the provision of scholarships. Suppose they had a system of mining education which took in the boy who entered the mine as soon as the law allowed him, the boy who could stop at school until he was 16, and the boy who was able to go on to the university, there nevertheless remained a number of miners who had not passed through any course of training, and who could not look forward to the higher positions in the mine. For men of that kind Mr. Williams’ proposal for a series of popular lectures was a very valuable one, and he hoped it would be carried into operation. But he would like those lectures to deal with other subjects, apart from the application of science to mining. Citizenship subjects, such as economics and the history of trades unions as related to mining, might be introduced and made very attractive. In conclusion, he expressed the wish that something might.be done in the way of appointing a committee to consider the whole question of mining education. Mr. Drummond Paton suggested that one means of securing a good educational, system was by the appoint- ment of a mining board. Owing to the lateness of the hour the discussion was adjourned to the next meeting. LABOUR AND WAGES. South Wales and Monmouthshire. The Conciliation Board for South Wales met at Cardiff on Tuesday, and there was a long list of subjects to be dealt with—including those of Easter holidays, the banks- men’s questions, and a number of local disputes. The men’s Federation had intimated their intention of giving formal notice terminating the present agreement, also setting out the required amendments; and the owners had made an offer of a war .bonus of 10 per cent, on the stan- dard. Mr. F. L. Davis, who presided, referred to these questions, ^although they were not among the agenda; but inasmuch as the national meeting Was to take place in London, he thought it right to inform the workmen’s repre- sentatives of ,the employers’ position. They could not, he said, until the end of the war, enter into anv discussion of the proposals for revising the agreement; and he thought that in proffering a war bonus of 10 per cent., the employers had made a very fair offer. The employers then referred to the question of more energetic work, and urged the men’s representatives to impress upon the men that there was need for greater regularity, and they made special reference to Lord Kitchener’s speech, Mr. F. L. Davis remarking that if the men put full time and effort into the work a considerable effect would be produced upon the price of coal. Instead of the usual three days’ holiday at Easter, it was decided that only. Easter Monday and Tuesday should be fixed, both sides being wishful to respond to the appeal of the Admiralty that any serious reduction in the output should be avoided. Upon the banksmen’s grievances, there being outstanding questions at a number of collieries, it was agreed to call a special meeting of the committee at an early date. The question of re-instatement of men who had enlisted was brought up from the work- men’s side, it being pointed out that the places of a great number of miners who had enlisted had been .filled by strangers; and the hope was expressed that the employers would consider the position of the enlisted men. In reply, the owners stated that wherever possible they would ensure re-instatement. Another question raised was as to search- ing of underground workmen on the surface. The delegates of the anthracite miners, at their meeting in Swansea on Saturday, represented about 14,000 members, and they discussed the conditions to be embodied in the new agreement. One of their demands will be to secure recognition of the custom of attending funerals when fatal accidents have occurred; and they will make a further demand that where both through and large coal are men- tioned in the price list, they should have the option of claiming pay in respect of through instead of large when- ever they desired so to do. During Saturday a mass meeting of the men employed in the Nine Mile Point Colliery was held, they having been on stop since Thursday; and after the matters in dispute had been fully discussed, Mr. W. Brace, M.P. (president), and Mr. A. Onions (treasurer), with other Federation leaders, being in attendance, it was decided to accept the offer of the employers, with the exception of a requirement to sign a .five years’ agreement. The manager having been com- municated with, he decided to deal with the local leaders if the men returned to work on Monday, and this was accepted, work being resumed in due course. About 2,000 men were affected. The practice of sub-contracting came under discussion at the meeting of Eastern Valleys, Monmouthshire, miners on Monday; and the agent having reported that he had received no answer from Messrs. Vipond and Company to a. request that sub-contracting should be abolished, a resolution was passed applying for leave to tender notice at the Varteg United Collieries forthwith. Between 600 -and 700 men were idle at the Markham Colliery, Sirhowy Valley, on Tuesday, on account of some disagreement concerning working places. The day wage men in the Aberdare district have been raising the question of overtime work by night men, they desiring this to be six hours per turn, in accordance with an alleged previous understanding. At some of the collieries the men have resolved not to work overtime until an explicit agreement on this basis has been arrived at. ; The coal trimmers of Newport gave notice on Monday for termination of their agreement at the end of the month; and it is stated that they intend to ask for an increase of Jd. per ton, with higher rates for special steamers. ■ North of England. That being the first council meeting since his election as president, Mr. William Weir was congratulated by the council of the Northumberland Miners’ Association at its special meeting on Saturday. The meeting had . as its object the consideration of the instructions of the Miners’ Federation of Grea,t Britain regarding the termination of notices. In Northumberland the minimum percentage is 25 per cent, above the 1879 basis, and it is desired to have this 25 per cent, embodied in a new basis wage. It was announced that the council had unanimously passed the following resolution, which will be submitted* to the mem- bers for acceptance or rejection :—“ That we carry out the instructions of our Miners’ Federation, requiring every dis- trict to give notice on April 1 to terminate existing wage agreements, with a view to new agreements being arranged so as to include as far as possible the principles embodied in conference resolutions regarding new basis wages and wages of surface workers.” The county vote is returnable on March 27. A conference of representatives of Durham miners’ lodges was held on Saturday at South Shields, to consider the question of demanding an immediate advance of wages to meet the increase in the cost of living caused by the war. Forty lodges in various parts of the county were repre- sented. A resolution was passed to the effect that the time had arrived when the Durham miners ought to receive a 25 per cent, 'advance in wages. As the result of a large number of the Cleveland iron- stone miners having joined the Colours, the output of iron- stone in the Cleveland district has been considerably reduced. At ordinary times the men only work a short day between Thursday and Monday in Easter week, but the Cleveland ironstone mine owners have issued an appeal to the miners to work on Good Friday this year, in order that the supply of ironstone might be kept up. In the appeal, the mine owners state that at the present time the supply of iron- stone is barely sufficient to meet requirements, and the employers are rather concerned regarding the supply of ore for the coming Easter holidays. For many years past Good Friday has been regarded as a holiday at the mines, but if the holiday is adhered to this year it is feared that serious inconvenience will arise in keeping the furnaces going over Easter, there being practically no stock in hand to meet any shortage. Owing to the abnormal state of affairs now pre- vailing, the difficulties will be greatly accentuated if the miners do not work on Good Friday. In conclusion, the mine owners state that the North-Eastern Railway Com- pany has promised, owing to the special circumstances of the situation, to remove the ironstone from the mines to the furnaces, if the mines are working. The matter is to be considered by the miners during the next few days. At a special meeting of the Cumberland Miners’ Associa- tion at Workington on Tuesday, Mr. J. Dickinson pre- siding, it was resolved to forward the following proposals to the Coal Owners’ Association for incorporation in a new wage agreement :— (1) That in forming a new wage agreement, we ask that 50 per cent, be added to all existing rates nowT being paid to all underground workers, and that a minimum of 15 per cent, be paid on the new standard rates; all subsequent advances and reductions to be in 'accordance with -any subse- quent advances and reductions that may take place in the Midland Federation Conciliation Board’s area; the new agreement to remain in operation for the same period as that agreed upon by the Midland Federation Conciliation Board; and any advance agreed upon in the future to apply to both the existing minimum wage and to any that may hereafter be agreed upon. (2) That -a minimum wage of 5s. per day be paid to sur- face workers; that 35 per cent, be added to the existing standard rates of surface workers, with a minimum of 15 per cent, on the new standards; and that subsequent advances and reductions be in accordance with the agree- ment governing and controlling underground wages. (3) That at collieries where two or three shifts are being worked, a shaft and affifth be paid for each shift to those working afternoon or night shift, thus making six shifts for five worked; and that workmen constantly On night shift be paid a shift and a-quarter for each shift worked. (4) That boys 14 years of age commencing work on the surface be paid a standard rate of Is. 8d. per day, with a minimum of 15 per cent.; that standard rates be advanced 3d. per day for six months; percentage advances or reduc- tions to be made on the same lines as the underground agreement. ' (5) That the hours of mechanics and other surface workers should not exceed 51 hours per week, and where better con- ditions exist for any class of surface workers, that they remain as at present. (6) That 35 per cent, be added to the screen women’s standard, with a minimum of 15 per cent, on the new stan- dard ; the percentage advances or reductions to be on the same line as the underground agreement. A letter was read from Mr. T. P. Martin, secretary to the Coal Owners’ Association, stating that the summer reduction of 2J per cent., which should have taken place on the 12th prox., in accordance with the 1908 agreement, will not be asked for by the employers. Federated Area. The Coal Conciliation Board for the Federated mining districts in England and North Wales, meeting at the West- minster Palace Hotel, London, on Friday last, provisionally agreed on the terms of a new wage agreement for the area. Mr. F. J. Jones, South Yorkshire, chairman of the Board, presided, with Mr. Stephen Walsh, M.P., chairman of the men’s section, in the vice-chair, and a full attendance of the members, with the joint secretaries, Sir Thomas Ratcliffe-Ellis and Mr. Thos. Ashton. The important decision arrived -at by the Conciliation Board was announced to the Press by Sir Thos. Ratcliffe-Ellis in the following ambiguous and obscure phraseology : “ Amended terms have been discussed, and in due course will be submitted to the coal owners and workmen in the different districts of the Federated area.” A conference of representatives of the coal mining dis- tricts embraced within the area of the Coal Conciliation Board for England and North Wales was held at the West- minster Palace Hotel on Tuesday, to consider the provisional wage agreement. Mr. Stephen Walsh, M.P., chairman of