398 THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. February 19, 1915. Redmayne said Nos. 4 and 5 were advance signals, he , must have meant action -signals. The speaker only knew of one advance signal, so far as he understood the code, and that was “ Men.” As to not being able to get electricians, he 'Suggested that these could be obtained if Mr. Merivale was prepared to pay. Any amateur electrician could devise some means of releasing if he desired. A vote of thanks to Mr. Davis and Mr. Ashby was adopted, on the motion of the President. The Ralph Gas Detector. Mr. Geo. J. Ralph’s paper on “A Portable Electrical Gas Detecting Device for Use with Miners’ Lamps ” was open for further discussion. Prof. Henry Louis expressed the hope that the dis- -cussion would remain open for some time, as he had received an apparatus from Mr. Ralph, and would make experiments on it in the near future, and report the results. , . The Chairman gave that assurance. Hydraulic Stowing. Mr. B. C. Gullachsen’s paper on “Hydraulic Stowing in the Gold Mines of the Witwatersrand ” was further discussed. The Chairman remarked that the subject was one of great importance, and that, it seemed to him, its importance would be greater in the near future than it had been in the past. Up till now, the necessity for such stowing had not arisen in this country to any great extent, but it was quite clear that the necessity would arise in the future, particularly in the deep collieries on the east coast of Durham, and those which were being sunk in the Doncaster district. So far as he could see from the paper, the cost of stowing was something about Is. per ton. He took it, therefore, that a cubic yard of that material would fill up a cubic yard of space in the mine which, roughly, had contained a ton of coal. The subject was one to which mining engineers in this country would, he was sure, devote more attention. • A number of written contributions to the discussion were taken as read. .Replying on the discussion, Mr. Gullachsen said he was pleased to hear from Mr. J. D. Paton that a start had been made with hydraulic stowing in Great Britain, and felt sure that, at many collieries, the system could be used to advantage. The chief diffi- culty in the way of its successful adoption would, no doubt, be ' the scarcity of suitable and inexpensive filling material. The presence of large pit heaps was hardly sufficient to warrant the expense entailed by the installation of a hydraulic stowing plant. If such stowing were carried on to any large extent, the pit heaps would soon become exhausted. In Germany, where suitable surface deposits were not conveniently situated near the mines, the filling material was often conveyed to the colliery in trucks from a distance of several miles. All sorts of filling w^ere also used—■ broken bricks from old buildings, ash, and slag heaps. At one mine he had seen molten slag run direct from, the furnaces into water. The sudden immersion caused the slag to disintegrate and form a very good filling material, which, however, had the great objection that it gave off considerable heat when deposited in the mine workings. No doubt there were several of the coalfields in Great Britain which contained alluvial deposits suitable for filling material. In Durham he had seen gravel quarries quite near to collieries, the gravel from which would make excellent filling material. He desired to take that opportunity of supporting Mr. Paton’s appeal for a committee of investigation. Colliery owners who had had to pay thousands of pounds for surface damage would, he felt sure, be well repaid by assisting such an investigation. The cry of “But consider the extra cost” was too often heard, but the same cry had been heard in connection with nearly every innovation in mining. He thanked Mr. Gibson for drawing attention to the fact that it was essential that every hydraulic stowing installation should be provided with a good telephone system. In the event of a burst pipb, broken barrier, or a choked pipe line, it was very necessary to be able to communi- cate with the surface immediately, and to have the supply of filling material stopped. Regarding Mr. Selby’s table of costs, he was surprised to find them so high, being an average cost for the eight mines men- tioned of just about Is. 3|d. per ton. What was included in that cost? The table did not inform him, but he imagined that it included not only the actual running cost, but also the cost of upkeep of plant, repairs, stores, amortisation, etc. It would be noted that the Robinson Mine delivered through its plant to the Robinson Deep Mine about 100,000 tons of sand at a charge of Id. per ton, and that Mr. Selby remarked that the Id. per ton was sufficient to save the actual running cost of that sand to the Robinson tip. In the dis- cussion on Mr. Paton’s paper on “ Modern Develop- ments in Hydraulic Stowing,” read before the Man- chester Geological and Mining Society, Mr. Ollerenshaw mentioned that he did hand-packing at considerably less cost than 6d. per ton, and that in one district the cost worked out at only 4d. per ton on the coal got. It occurred to the speaker that perhaps there was a mis- understanding in some people’s minds as to what was implied by the cost of hydraulic stowing. It was not the cost per ton of the coal or ore got, but the cost per ton of filling material lowered into the mines. In a mine where hydraulic stowing was employed it would never be found necessary to stow the entire area from which the coal had been extracted, . but just those portions where support was most required, the same as was done in the case of hand packing. As an example of the difference in these two costs, he cited the Robinson, Gold Mine, where 51,320 tons of filling material were stowed during six months, an average of 3,553 tons per month, at an average cost of ll’8d. per ton. During 'that period the average output of the mine would be in the neighbourhood of 45,000 tons per month; thus the cost per ton on the mine’s output would be 2'24d. per ton. A vote of thanks to Mr. Gullachsen was accorded, on the motion of the Chairman. Friction of Winding Ropes. Mr. H. W. G. Halbaum contributed a paper on “ The Lateral Friction of Winding Ropes,” an abstract of which is given elsewhere in this issue. Several written contributions to the discussion were announced to have been read. Prof. Louis pointed out what he regarded as an important and fundamental error in. Mr. Halbaum’s argument. If there were a drum, with the rope wound fully on it and unwinding as the cage descended, obviously as it unwound each coil would press against the adjacent coil, and there would be friction until they got to that point where the coils were pulling away from each other. - It was an axiom that “ where you have no pressure, you have no friction.” It appeared to him, therefore, that they only had friction for half the wind. Mr. G. W. Westgarth stated that, in laying out new winding arrangements, it was most desirable that the lateral angle should be arranged for the , adoption of such a rope that its weight would bear an economical relationship to its useful load. At a certain colliery two locked coil ropes, each 860 yds. in length, 5 in. in circumference, and weighing 7 tons 7 cwt., were replaced by two ropes of another type, of the same length and size, which' weighed 5. tons 5 cwt. each, so that the maximum load on each rope was reduced by 2 tons 2 ’cwt. It was not suggested that the breaking strains, of these ropes were the same in each case, nor was it thought necessary, because, for every ton in the reduction of' the load, the breaking strain could be reduced by eight to 10 times, according to the factor of safety required. With regard to the method of allowing the. rope to mount and coil upon itself during the latter half of the wind for the purpose of reducing the lateral angle, there were several examples of that Hiethod in use where the damage to the rope was not sufficient to prevent highly satisfactory results being obtained. In that connection he quoted the paper read by Mr. Hugh Bramwell before the South Wales Institute of Engineers. The customary vote of thanks was accorded to Mr. Halbaum. ‘ A mine signalling apparatus was exhibited and demonstrated by the Sterling Telephone and Electric Company Limited at the -close of the meeting. LAW INTELLIGENCE. SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE. COURT OF APPEAL.—February 16. Before the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Justice Swinfen Eady, and Mr. Justice Bray. Thin Seam Owners and the Minimum Wage. The King v. His Honour Judge Amphlett.—This was an appeal arising out of the claim made by the Thin Seam Coal Owners of the West Yorkshire coalfield to make certain representations before the local District Wages Board, of which Judge Amphlett is chairman. They asserted that their application to the Board upon the subject of the wages in the thin seam pits had not been heard and determined by* the Board and Judge Amphlett as chairman. Mr. Branson, representing the Treasury, recalled the fact that the case was heard on February 10 by the Ring’s Bench Divisional Court, who made an order for a mandamus against Judge Amphlett to hear and determine the applica- tion. The order was to lie for 14 days in the Crown Office, to give the parties time to see if they would appeal. In the interval the men and masters had patriotically arranged to compound their differences for the time, and they now asked that the order should be allowed to continue to 'lie at the Crown Office during the war. The Court granted the application. The right to appeal against the finding of the Divisional Court is now extended until one month after the declaration of peace. Dutch Imports and Exports of Coal in 1914.—During the last quarter of 1914 the imports of coal into Holland amounted to 1,754,469 tons (3,527,746 tons in 1913), of which 251,384 tons (452,959 tons) were from Great Britain, 1,490,075 tons (3,008,987 tons) from Germany, and 13,010 tons (65,800 tons) from Belgium. For the whole year the total coal imports were 11,281,782 tons (13,712,527 tons in 1913), a deficit of 2,430,745 tons, including 1,716,090 tons (2,003,535 tons) from England, a deficit of 287,445 tons, and 9,400,645 tons (11,436,828 tons) from Germany, a deficit of 2,036,164 tons^ and 159,782 tons (269,866 tons) from Belgium, a deficit of 110,084 tons. The exports for the final quarter were 163,272 tons (1,373,908 tons), including 107,768 tons (202,437 tons) to Germany, 54,519 tons (267,450 tons) to Belgium, and nil (236,897 tons) to France. Exports for the whole year, 3,746,502 tons (5,106,287 tons), a deficit of 1,359,785 tons. Of this quantity, 859,263 tons (1,102,102 tons) were sent to Germany, a deficit of 242,839 tons, 605,746 tons (1,051,409 tons) to Belgium, a deficit of 445,663 tons, and 746,490 tons (867,865 tons) to France, a deficit of 121,375 tons. THE GERMAN AND AUSTRIAN COAL AND IRON TRADES. We give below further extracts from German periodicals that have reached us, showing the course of the coal and iron trades in Germany and Austria:— The Coal and Iron Market in Upper Silesia. Although the war has withdrawn about 40 per cent, of the miners, the coal market showed a not inconsiderable improvement in January. The restrictions on traffic were to a great extent removed, thus enabling the output to be increased, and 'at the same time a considerable proportion of the accumulated stocks at the pits to be despatched, the supply of wagons being larger and more regular. In fact, the deliveries rose to about 70 per cent, of the figures of normal times. The demand continues very active, and great care is devoted to keeping the various gasworks well supplied. Before the war many of these works obtained a large portion of their supply from England, and now that this source has been cut off they have to secure a substitute. Whilst most of the gas coal is being obtained from Westphalia, there is still a large opening for Silesian coal.. There is also some difficulty in supplying the demand for coking coals, the cokeries desiring to have their normal supplies, in spite of the necessarily diminished output. Coke is in such active request that the cokeries are doing, all they can to keep up the output and satisfy their customers, stocks being practically exhausted in conse- quence of the scarcity of coal in December. The blast furnaces are the chief buyers of large coke; and any surplus is taken over readily by other consumers, along with cubes and nuts. Small coke has also sold well, and there are no important stocks anywhere. Pig iron was much firmer than in the previous month, the demand for war material being so great that all the furnaces are trying to increase their output, whilst some of them have been able to relieve the tension of the market out of the stocks left over from last year. Conventions in the Iron Industry. The Kolnische Zeitung reports that the projected Conventions for bar iron, plates and pipes have been successfully formed, the first two for the inland trade, and the last for export as well. Endeavours are still being made to come to an agreement for the export business in plates. The price of bar iron has been fixed at 112'50 mk. net, freight base Oberhausen, for the current quarter, and at 115 mk., same conditions, for next quarter. The prices of plates are : 120 mk. for heavy, 122'50 mk. for constructional, and 130 mk. for boiler plates, ex Essen-Siegen, with discount. Iron Pipe Market. The last few weeks have witnessed an improvement in this market, resulting in firmer prices. The Mannesmann works have reduced the rebate by 2 per cent.—the second increase in rates since war began. Other makers are following suit, as buyers’ stocks appear to be getting low. Enquiries from neutrals are being treated with some reserve, it being considered undesirable to supply the enemy indirectly with pipes, &c., which might be used as war material. Coal Syndicate Report for December. Total coal raised 5,661,200 tons (7,956,552 tons in December 1913). Calculated distribution 4,469,072 tons (6.183,209 tons). Total coal distribution of the syndicated pits 5,839,695 tons (7,943,042 tons). Deliveries, including local sales, miners’ house coal and supply to pits’ own ironworks: Coal 3,622,478 tons (5,099,492 tons); coke 1,114,147 tons (1,618,124 tons); briquettes 355,843 tons (329,604 tons). The total coal output of the pits having a sales agreement with the Syndicate was 363,402 tons (460,083 tons) ; total coal distribution 333,564 tons (416,355 tons), of which 104,967 tons (168,060 tons) were for Syndicate account. The total coke distribution was 114,519 tons (120,283 tons), of which 88,571 tons (92,356 tons) were for account of the Syndicate. Austrian Coal Production in 1914. Coal, 15,073,132 tons (16,466,972 tons), a decline of 1,393,840 tons, or 8'46 per cent.; coke, 2,189,913 tons (2,584,281 tons), a deficit of 394,368 tons, or 15'26 per- cent ; briquettes, 194,221 tons (196,212 tons), a fall of 1'01 per cent. The production was distributed as follows : — Ostrau - Karwin 8,917,922 tons (9,388,362 tons) of coal, 2,119,990 tons (2,504,513 tons) of coke, and 30,432 tons (52,425 tons) of briquettes; Kladno, 2,439,337 tons (2,555,593 tons) of coal; Pilsen, 1,159,087 tons (1,328,930 tons) of coal and 68,691 tons (58,986 tons) of briquettes; Galicia, 1,399,961 tons (1,979,584 tons) of coal; other districts 1,156,825 tons (1,214,503 tons) of coal, 69,923 tons (79,543 tons) of coke, and 95,098 tons (84,801 tons) of briquettes. In brown coal the output was 23,772,069 tons (27,276,759 tons), a deficit of 3,504,690 tons, br 12 85 per cent.; and in briquettes 230,642 tons (241,887 tons) a deficit of 11,245 tons, or 4'65 per cent. The chief producing centres were:-r-Briix-Teplitz- Komot.au,. 16,184,729 tons (18,529,072 tons) of brown coal; and Falkenau-Elbogen-Karlsbad, 3,507,857 tons (4,111,717 tons) of coal and 225,580 tons (231,814 tons) of briquettes. The following appears in the Zeitsch/rift des Verbandes der Bergbau - Betriebsleiter : — “ The Britannia Goal Works Limited, in Koenigswart, has been taken over by the Austrian Government, which has appointed a commission to administer its affairs. The capital of the company is 2,568,000 kronen, of which 2,183,000 kronen are owned by John R. W. Griffith, Hendersyde Park, England.” Ruhr Coal Market. Except that the scarcity of coal has increased, there has been little change in the situation as compared with December. Consumers have to rest content with the knowledge that in no circumstances can they expect to