April 17, 1914. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. 853 MANCHESTER GEOLOGICAL AND HIKING SOCIETY. Deepening a Shaft by a Rise Method: Discussion on Mr. H. B. Pilkington’s Paper. At the meeting of the Manchester Geological and Mining Society, held at the society’s rooms, 5, John Dalton-street, Manchester, on April 7, a paper was read by Mr. Hugh Brocklehurst Pilkington, of the Clifton and Kersley Collieries, on “ Deepening a Shaft by a Rise Method.” The paper appeared in our last issue. In the absence of the president (Sir Thomas H. Holland), the chair was occupied by Mr. Charles Pilkington. Mr. Arthur Moore Lamb, of Birkdale, Southport, moved a vote of thanks to Mr. Pilkington for his paper, which, he said, had been most interesting. It seemed to him, if one could deepen a colliery by sinking up, without interfering with the winding operations, and allowing the ordinary work of the colliery to go on at the same time, there had been a most valuable addition made to what they could do in coalmining. The Hon. Secretary (Mr. Sydney A. Smith) said he would specially like to second the vote of thanks to Mr. Brocklehurst Pilkington. When he explained that they ought to have had another paper read at this meeting, which paper had been unavoidably postponed, and that Mr. Pilkington kindly agreed to fill the breach, and, after having only 10 days’ notice, had given them such a magnificent paper, he thought the members would appreciate it all the more. The proposition was carried with acclamation. The Chairman then invited discussion. Mr. John Robinson (Haydock Collieries, St. Helens) said he was not quite clear as to how they got rid of the debris. He desired also to know the weight of the hoppet. The pulleys fixed on the top scaffold would, he assumed, be small, and therefore the hoppet must be small, too, on account of the strain that would be put on small pulleys. It was certainly an excellent idea, and one, he thought, that might be copied. He would be glad to hear if the expense was reasonable, for that was an important consideration. It seemed to him that, having got the borehole down, the question of bricking and other operations was simple. Mr. Richard Landless (Burnley) said he thought they had all been very much interested in the paper. It was rather too late to criticise it now the work had been carried through so successfully. The one thing he was wondering about was in regard to the borehole, its size, and the method of centring the shaft. It appeared to him the borehole would have to be fairly large, and guaranteed perpendicular to get the centre line down. Mr. Leonard R. Pletcher (Woodfields, Leigh), asked whether, while bricking, they bricked from the bottom scaffold, and whether the box was in the way ? Mr. Lamb said he would like to ask one question with regard to the borehole. He had in his mind a case where it might be possible to sink up, but not possible to put a borehole down, and he was wondering whether for a small scaffolding Mr. Pilkington would recom- mend this method. The Chairman said he would risk it, certainly. Mr. Vincent Bramall (Pendlebury Collieries) asked how they ensured that the borehole would be perfectly straight. Preparations were being made for sinking below the Ram’s Mine, Pendleton, and they had got a borehole down 45 ft. Their intention was to work up to it, but he could not guarantee that the borehole would be straight. What size was the borehole in the case described in the paper ? In the case he had in mind it was 3 in. in diameter. It was put in for the purpose of centring the shaft. The Chairman said in the case described in the paper the borehole was one of 10 in. Mr. F. J. Dixon (Ashton-under-Lyne) said it would be interesting to know wha-t strata were passed through in the sinking operations. He thought if they had a bad roof, especially one of soft shale, they would be liable to heavy falls, and if an enormous weight fell on the staging where would they be ? He would like to know also the cost of the staging, and the rate of progress. As to the remarks about the borehole being perpendicular, he thought there would be no difficulty in securing that. Boreholes had been driven 1,700 yards deep, and were absolutely perpendicular. There was the case of the great boreholes under the Hudson River, New York. Two holes were driven from different points, and the work was done so accurately that the holes actually met where they were intended to do, according to the drawing. Mr. J. D. Paton (Manchester) asked for information as to the actual amount of material that came down on the scaffold, and its relation to the tensile strength and size of the scaffold. Mr. A. J. A. Orchard (St. Helens) said he would like to ask by what system the borehole was put down, and whether, when the bottom boring was finished, it was found to be actually perpendicular from the top. The Chairman remarked that the questioners had hit the right points. In answer to a further question by Mr. Lamb, he said the ventilation was by the borehole. Mr. Brocklehurst Pilkington, before replying to the questions, said he would like to thank the meeting for. its appreciation of his paper. In the first place, in regard to Mr. Robinson’s question, the dirt came on the scaffold, and as there was no cover over the hole some would drop in. The hoppet was, of course, a very light one, and it only had to take up 7 or 8 hundredweight— bricks, tools, mortar, and so on. The borehole was 10 in. in diameter, which left a margin of 5 in. each way, and when they plumbed it they plumbed straight through it, and the wire did not touch the walls. When he said it was absolutely plumb he would not swear to Jin., but should say it was pretty accurate. In answer to Mr. Paton, he might say that when they got to the point indicated the brick lining was put in, and when they rose from the bottom they used small plumb lines each time the brick lining was raised. In answer to Mr. Fletcher, he had to say there was no cover over the top of the box. If there had been, the difficulty would have been to get it away, if dirt fell on it. They had no difficulty in getting men round to the back of the box. With regard to Mr. Lamb’s question, he should say the ventilation would be a trouble if they pushed their scaffold up and had no borehole. In regard to the cost of the staging, he had to say that part of the work was carried on in 1911, and he was afraid the record as to time had got lost. The measures passed through were the ordinary coal measures; four shots were the maximum, and the amount brought down was never more than 50 tons. That punished the scaffold, which was accordingly strengthened. Mr. Percy Lee Wood, the inventor of the scheme described in the paper, added a few explanatory remarks. A question had been asked, he said, as to how they were sure the borehole was plumb. As a matter of fact, when the holes that Mr. Pilkington spoke of were finished, if they looked down they could see the wire all the way down, and that it was not touching the side anywhere. But he did not think there was much danger even if they had not got it plumb. However, they took the precaution of seeing it was quite plumb. One member asked, Supposing it had been out of plumb, what would they do ? Well, one had to rely upon one’s surveys. As to another point, the door was strong enough to take what fell upon it; but when the men were working at a place indicated on the drawings, they had a number of loose planks, about five or six, put across, so that there was never sufficient space for a man to tumble through. “ Was the borehole made by machine or not ? ” It was put down by John Thom, of Patricroft, by machinery, and one found his boreholes were generally plumb. They had one at Astley, a very deep one, and that was plumb. This was not absolutely, but quite near enough. “ What stratification was passed through ? ” It was the ordinary one of the coal measures. There was a danger, someone suggested, of getting too much debris on the scaffold. As to that, he had to say that when it was deemed necessary they put down stays with girders across and some tie-rods. They did not strengthen the structure projecting on the brickwork. With reference to the rate of progress, Mr. Wood said he really did not remember what it was, but he thought the main thing was, What was the cost ? The answer was that it was quite as cheap as ordinary sinking. They could have gone quicker had they liked, but they had not too many men working on the scaffold, for the dirt had to be taken away and they could not do it quickly. As to the ventilation, that was quite simple. Mr. Dixon asked what was the effect on the brick- work of the falling debris, for the brickwork was fresh. Did they use cement or the ordinary bricking, and did it get punished ? Mr. Wood said the brickwork was a little compressed, but it was all the better for it. The Chairman said there was just one thing he would like to say to Mr. Lamb. They could get the exact deviation of a borehole. In South Africa they found the exact deviation of very deep boreholes. Mr. Lamb asked if they could put down a borehole away from the shaft. The Chairman said it was not absolutely necessary to bore down the shaft; they could do it elsewhere. But he took it, in a small deepening of this shaft—40 yards —if they had deviated slightly, a foot or so, it would not have mattered much. With respect to ventilation, supposing there were no borehole, as in this case, surely it would not be very difficult to put a pipe in a place where it would be more or less protected. Institution of Mining Engineers : London Meetings. The Hon. Secretary reminded members that the dates of the London meetings of the Institution of Mining Engineers had been changed from May 28 and 29 to June 4 and 5. There would be a banquet at the Hotel Cecil on June 4 to celebrate the twenty-fifth anniversary of the foundation of the institution. While on this subject he might mention that £1,117 had been subscribed to the special fund, which the institution was seeking to raise, by members of the Manchester Geological and Mining Society, and all had been paid but £46. The society ought to raise £1,263, so they were about £150 short. Some members had not yet notified their intention of subscribing. He wished they would do so at once, as all subscriptions had to be paid in on or about May 1, and this society had arranged to send its contribution in before that date. A sum of £15,000 was needed in the aggregate, and £1,000 had still to be raised. Safety Air-doors for Coalmines. In reference to Mr. Ashworth’s paper on this subject, the Chairman said it was very good of Mr. Ashworth to send them this paper, and he hoped the honorary secretary would convey the society’s thanks to him. Mr. Orchard said there were some accidents where it might be an advantage for the doors to open. Supposing there was a fire at the pit shaft, at the bottom, it would be an advantage for the doors to open. The Chairman said most of them thought the best thing that could happen at a big explosion was that the doors should be blown out. It would save no end of lives, in spite of what Mr. Redmayne said. Mr. Sydney Smith said it was a very ingenious arrangement, and he thought that in the ordinary working of a mine it would act very well. For example, suppose a pony went through the first door—it having been left open—when it passed through the second door the first closed. As to all that Mr. Ashworth claimed for the device, he doubted whether it would act in all circumstances. The Chairman said both doors would be removed when an explosion came, if anywhere near the bottom of the shaft. IRON AND STEEL INSTITUTE. The annual meeting of the institute will be held in the new house of the Institution of Civil Engineers, Great George-street, Westminster, on Thursday and Friday, May 7 and 8, 1914, commencing each day at 10 30 o’clock a.m. At the opening the retiring president (Mr. Arthur Cooper) will induct into the chair the president-elect (Mr. Adolphe Greiner). After the Bessemer gold medal for 1914 has been presented to Mr. Edward Riley, F.I.C., the president will deliver his inaugural address. A selection of papers will be read and discussed. At 7 p.m. the annual dinner of the institute will be held at the Connaught Rooms, Great Queen-street, W.C. On the Friday (May 8) the Andrew Carnegie gold medal (for 1913) will be presented to Mr. Thomas Swinden, D.Met., and the award of research scholarships for the current year will be announced. Further papers will be read and discussed. The following is the list of papers that are expected to be submitted for reading and discussion:— J. O. Arnold, D.Met., F.R.S., and G. R. Bolsover: “The Forms in which Sulphides may exist in Steel Ingots.” C. Benedicks, Ph.D.; “Experiments on Allotropy of Iron (Behaviour of Ferro-Magnetic Mixtures ; Dilatation of Pure Iron).” A. Bose : “ Recent Developments of the Iron and Steel Industry in India.” C. Chappell: “The Recrystallisation of Deformed Iron.” C. A. Edwards, D.Sc., and H. C. H. Carpenter, Ph.D.. “ The Hardening of Metals, with special reference to Iron and its Alloys.” J. N. Friend, D.Sc., and C. W. Marshall: “ Influence of Molybdenum upon the Corrodibility of Steel.” H. C. Greenwood, D.Sc.: “ Note on a Curious Case of Decarburisation during the Hardening of Steel Dies.” Sir Robert A. Hadfield, F.R.S., and B. Hopkinson, F.R.S.: “ The Magnetic and Mechanical Properties of Manganese Steels.” H. L. Heathcote, B.Sc.: “ Some Improvements in Case- hardening Practice.” S. A. Houghton: “Failures of Heavy Boiler Shell Plates.” E. Humbert and A. Hethey, B.Sc.: “Production of Steel Direct from the Ore.” A. McCance, B Sc.: “Theory of Hardening.” M. Misson : “ The Colorimetric Estimation of Sulphur in Pig Iron and Steels by Means of Paper Impregnated with a Solution of Arsenious Anhydride in Hydrochloric Acid.” F. Muller: “ The Development of Dry Cleaning in Blastfurnace Gas Purification.” W. Rosenhain, D.Sc., F.R.S,, and J. L Haughton, M.Sc;: “ A New Reagent for Etching Mild Steel.” F. Schuster, D. Ing.: “ Results of Talbot Process at Witkowitz.” By the kind invitation of the Comite des Forges, the autumn meeting will be held in Paris on September 18-23, 1914. During 1913, 21,056,955 tons of anthracite, 175,016,526 tons of bituminous coal, and 27,696,763 tons of coke were moved over the Eastern railroads of the United States; in 1912 the totals moved were 19,486,894 tons of anthracite, 159,691,520 tons of bituminous coal, and 27,202,978 tons of coke; In some cases the railway company’s coal is not included; this is so with the Pennsylvania Railroad, which in 1913 carried about 76,000,000 tons of coal and coke, including coal received from connecting lines,