February 20, 1914j. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. 405 some such manner that the whole of its power would not, as at present, be exerted in the wrong direction ? . Coaid as t from the screens was carried into the air-current, simply because it had gathered at such a point that the suction at the top of the downcast shaft drew it into the shaft. If, therefore, the stonedust was to be distributed in the same manner, the stone-crushing plant should be in the near neighbourhood of the down- cast shaft, or, better still, in a shunt connecting the surface with the downcast shaft in much the same way as the fan drift usually connected with the fan inlet with the upcast shaft. Or, if suitable fluedust was available, this could be deposited in a drift or shunt leading from the boilers to the downcast shaft. The Coal Mines Act of 1911 required that the tubs should be so constructed and maintained as to prevent, as far as practicable, coaldust escaping through the sides, ends, or floor of the tubs, although any tub which was in use in any mine at the date of the passing of the Act might, notwithstanding that it was not so con- structed, continue to be used in that mine for a period of five years from the said date. That provision fore- shadowed the introduction of a closed tub. The design should not be left to Parliament. He thought that managers, in their own interests, should forestall any such legislation and anticipate it in such a way that the tub produced to their own design should be cheap, convenient, and effective. Open-ended tubs had never found favour in the north of England. A good iron tub, however, with normally open top, such as that usually employed in the north, seemed to be as good an arrangement as could be adopted, provided that the tubs were not loaded above the level of the tub itself. The writer proposed that managers should anticipate the closed tub foreshadowed by the Act and improve upon it. A store of inert dust should be taken nightly to the haulage landing of every district. During working hours the landing-lad could do all the rest if provided with a number of shallow trays made of galvanised sheet iron and fitting the tops of the full tubs. In each of these trays he would place a few handfuls of the inert dust. These light trays, fitted on. the tub tops, would practically transform the present open tub into a closed tub. The tray alone would prevent the coaldust from being removed from the tubs by the air-current, whilst the inert dust reposing in the tray would be shaken up as it travelled and be carried away and deposited by the incoming intake current of air. There was no reason, provided that the buoyancy of the inert dust was sufficiently marked, why the stone- dust treatment, conducted on such lines, should not penetrate into every obscure hole and corner which had hitherto been accessible only to coaldust. When such a course of treatment had been in operation for some time, expensive stone-crushing plants might possibly be dispensed with. Much manual labour now employed in distributing stonedust might be more profitably placed, and the mine would be eventually so adequately stonedusted that its efficiency in that respect might conceivably be maintained by simply utilising the drilling-dust made by the stonemen. An easy calcula- tion would show that, at many collieries working thin seams and producing large outputs, the weight of the stone drillings produced per annum could not be less than several hundred tons. One method that might be adopted had been outlined, but the system possessed great elasticity. It would here be sufficient to describe another method which differed slightly from that just sketched out. In the first place, it was suggested that the screens had probably been blamed far more than they deserved. It appeared to the writer that the coaldust carried in the downcast air-current was obtained principally from the load within the cage, and in a less degree from the screens. Although the cage was always roofed,' anyone who had happened to “ ride ” in the shaft when the winding engineman had permitted the cage to travel for a few moments at “ coal work,” would be fully aware that a strong blast of air was propelled through the passages of the cage in such circumstances. When the cages were travelling in the shaft at an average speed of 30 to 40 feet per second, and in some instances reaching a maximum speed of from 60 to 80 feet per second, whatever dust remained on the tub tops must be swept off into the shaft and carried downwards by the current, which in the shaft generally travelled at high velocity, and in the opposite direction to the loaded cage; hence the force of the down-going current on the up-going tubs was equal to that developed by the air-velocity and the cage speed combined. Bearing that state of affairs in mind, the writer submitted that, in a few cases, a better plan would be to leave the trays of stonedust on the full tubs at the bottom of the shaft and let them remain there until the tubs are banked. They would be sent down loaded on the tops of the empties. It appeared quite probable that, if that method were adopted, the down-going current would sweep the stone- dust off the ascending trays in precisely the same manner it now swept the coaldust from the ascending tubs, not only within the shaft proper, but in greater degree, as all mining men had experienced, at that point where the cage reached the normal surface and the air of the atmosphere was sucked into the colliery shaft. If it were true, as suggested, that the current entering and traversing the downcast took most of its dust from the top of the tubs and least from the screens, it followed that the shunts or drifts suggested in the previous arrangement need not be made, because sufficient inert dust would be obtained in the downcast current from the trays of stonedust resting on the tub tops. Further, it was by no means an indispensable part of the arrangement that stonedust in bulk should be taken into the landings at all. The trays could be filled from a hopper containing fluedust and placed just above the landing stage, so that each tray, after being placed on the top of its empty tub, could be replenished with the inert dust, of which, of course, it would only be necessary to place one or two handfuls on each tray. The empties covered in that way would descend the pit, and the trays would not be removed until the tubs reached the landings, or even the flats, as the manager might decide. At the flat or landing, the tray, still containing some of the inert dust placed upon it at the surface, would be transferred from the empty to the loaded tub and sent out-bye on the train. The construction of such a tray would be as simple as that of an ordinary domestic “ blazer.” It must be remembered that it would have to be easily portable. To make one for a tub measuring internally, say, 42 in. in length by 36 in. in width would require a piece of galvanised sheet iron or, better still, of very mild steel— steel because, strength for strength, it is lighter than iron and also rather stiffer, but very mild, because that kind of steel would be most easily workable by the colliery blacksmith. To make a tray for the size of tub indicated, a sheet of mild steel 47 in. long by 38 in. wide would be required—that is to say, a sheet 5 in. longer than the internal length of the tub and 2 in. wider than the internal width. As the tray had practi- cally no work to do, its thickness need not exceed ■Jg in., and probably it would be found that a lesser thickness would be ample. The deposition of coaldust would be practically abolished by the use of the empty trays alone; but whatever dust was actually deposited would be the inert dust blown from the loaded trays. There was no reason why the use of these trays should not extend from the surface right up to the putters’ flats. It would probably be found that, in some few cases, if the trays received their contents on the surface, the suction of the intake current at the top of the downcast shaft might be powerful enough to sweep off the whole contents at one swoop. In that circumstance the better method was that first described—namely, to take the inert dust to the landings and replenish the trays at those points. In the majority of cases, however, the second was the handier and more economical method— that was, to replenish the trays at the surface by means of a hopper placed at any suitable point on the heapstead, and above the tracks laid for the empties. Dr. John Harger (Liverpool) wrote expressing his pleasure that someone bad come forward with sugges- tions of a method which he had long advocated. An ounce of fine stonedust, floating in the air of an intake haulage road, was of more use than a hundredweight of coarse stonedust on the floor and sides. Mr. Halbaum, however, was wrong in stating that the most dangerous dust was that found on the main haulage roads. The writer’s experience was that it was found at or near the working face. He believed that Mr. Halbaum’s scheme would ensure a continuous supply of stonedust even at the working face. Mr. John Morrison (Newcastle) averred that the paper was rather a suggestion for a closed tub than a practical scheme of stonedusting, inasmuch as the same object would be attained if the stonedust, sufficiently fine, were shovelled into the roads in sufficient quantities. As to the prevention of the escape of coaldust from the full tubs, that could be attained by the spraying of the full tubs. There must be care taken, he added, to ensure that the stonedust selected was harmless to respiration. Mr. T. A. Southern (Cardiff) thought that Mr. Halbaum had hit upon a happy solution of the problem of applying stonedust. He did not think that it was essential that stonedust should be as buoyant as the finest coaldust. It was regrettable that the Home Office was conducting its experiments in such an outlandish place as Eskmeals. He thought that the Home Office could easily have found a suitable site in Yorkshire, sufficiently remote from public dwellings and highways, and yet easily accessible by rail from all the great coalfields. Mr. Leonard Fletcher generally commended Mr. Halbaum’s suggestions, although seeing difficulties as to the fitting of the trays on the tubs. Mr. E. O. Simcock (Hanley) wrote pointing out that very few colliery tubs retained their shapes until they were scrapped. Indeed, there was no assurance that tubs would retain their shape during their first working day. The writer had been assured by medical men that any such lengthy breathing of stonedust would have a dangerous physiological effect. The best time to put such a scheme into operation would be when there were fewest people in the mine. It ought not to require much ingenuity to invent such a vehicle as would •perform the work of stonedust distribution when the coal-drawing shifts were over. Prof. Louis (Armstrong College) said that Mr. Halbaum began with six “incontrovertible” proposi- tions, every one of which could be made the subject of acute controversy. Mr. Halbaum said that stonedust must be equally plentiful; the speaker believed that 25 per cent, had been found to be quite sufficient. Mr. Halbaum said stonedust must be equally finely divided ; the speaker averred that that was incorrect, and that the dust must be more finely divided than coal- dust. Further, with regard to Mr. Halbaum’s clause (3), the speaker declared there was no inert stonedust which had a lower specific gravity than had coal dust. The remaining “incontrovertible” propositions would certainly be disagreed with by those who were in favour of the zone system of dusting. Other speakers remarked that an atmosphere impregnated with stonedust would be most disagreeable, even if the dust were free from siliceous particles, and that distribution of stonedust by hand could be made even more effective than by Mr. Halbaum’s method. Mr. J. B. Atkinson, ex-inspector of mines for the Newcastle district, asked Mr. Halbaum if he was quite sure that more dust came from tubs travelling in the cage in the shaft than from the screens on the surface. It might be so, but the speaker’s impression was that where the screens were near the top of the downcast shafts there was more dust that way. Prof. Bedson (Armstrong College) reminded those present that there was a great variety of stonedust. In all the discussions he had seen in connection with stonedust the composition of the dust seemed to be put into the background, although its physical condition was considered. He had had some experiments made as to the relative value of gypsum and Chancey’s Mud (calcium carbide). The latter decomposed, and gave off carbon dioxide, which aided in the quenching of flame. The President remarked that there seemed to be a tendency on the part of one or two people to throw stones at the committee at Eskmeals for not getting everything done that was wanted at once. If they knew of the work that was being done, they would realise what a long time it took to make explosions in such a huge gallery. When one had to deal also with all sorts of faddists and theorists, it was quite impossible for the Home Office to please everyone—and he did not think they were going to try. He did not agree with the propositions with which Mr. Halbaum had prefaced his scheme. It was not a question of how the dust was to be deposited, but of when the dust that had been deposited should act. It was not absolutely necessary, for incombustible dust to be able to stop ignition, that it should be equally plentiful. The stonedust need not be equally finely divided. He was inclined to think that the hand method of distribution was, in the end, likely to prove the best. The physiological action of the dust was a question of the very greatest importance. So far they had applied stonedust quietly, and at such times as would give the least discomfort. In that way they could work with almost dangerous dusts, and still main- tain a condition of health. He took a great objection to the word “ inert.” Mr. Halbaum said he meant by “ inert ” that it did not enter into chemical action in the presence of heat. He further stated that he would defer his reply to the discussion until he had seen the speaker’s remarks in print. He did not think that he would have much difficulty in replying, for it was possible to set off one objection against another to a considerable extent. He pointed out that the air current would only lift the fine dust off the trays and would leave the lumpy particles on. He could not see how that very fine dust was going to do any injury to the lungs. A vote of thanks to Mr. Halbaum was cordially carried. The following papers were also read:—“Notes on Gob Fires and Blackdamp, &c.” by Mr. John Morris, and “A Westphalian By-product Coking Plant which Supplies Town Gas,” by Mr. Leo Dorey Ford. Reports are withheld until next week. Middlesex Foundry Limited.—This private company has been registered, with a capital of ^5,000 in £1 shares, to acquire the bu&iness now carried on at Isleworth, Middlesex, under* the style of Middlesex Foundry Company, and to carry on the business of metal founders, mechanical engi- neers, and manufacturers of implements and machinery, &c., also to enter into an agreement with R. A. Bryant and T. Henderson, who are the first directors. Registered office, The Works, Wor ton-road, Isle worth, Middlesex. The Institute of Metals.—The annual general meeting of this institute will be held at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers, Storey's Gate, Westminster, S.W., on Tuesday and Wednesday, March 17 and 18, 1914. The meeting will commence at 3 p.m. on March 17, and 10.30 a.m. on March 18. The fifth annual dinner of the institute will be held on the Tuesday at the Criterion Restaurant, Piccadilly Circus, W. The following is a list of the papers and reports that are expected to be submitted on March 18 :—First Report to the Beilby Research Committee, dealing with the solidification of metals from the liquid state, by C. H. Desch, Ph.D., D Sc.; “Bronze,” by J. Dewrance; “Vanadium in Brass: The Effect of Vanadium on the Constitution of Brass containing 50-60 per cent, of Copper,” by R J. Dunn, M.Sc., and O. F. Hudson, M.Sc.; “The Quantitative Effect of Rapid Cooling on Binary Alloys ” (second paper),by G. H. Gulliver, B Sc.; “Crystal P/otomorphs and Amorphous Metal,” by Prof. A. K. Huntington, A.R S.M.; First Report of the Nomenclature Committee; “ The I» fluence of Nickel on Some Copper-Aluminium All ys,” by Prof. A. A. Read, M.Met., F.I.C., and R. H. Greaves, M Sc.; “Muntz Metal: The Correlation of Composition, Structure, Heat Treatment, and M-chanical Properties, &c., &t,” by J. E. Stead, D Sc., D Met., F.R.S., and H. G. A. Sidman, A M.IE.E.; “The Micro-Chemistry of Corrosion,” Part II., by S. Whyte, B.Sc., and C. H. Desch, Ph.D., D.Sc.