April 11, 1913. THE COLLIERY GUARDIAN. 749 apparatus have been devised capable of dealing readily with fuel of an ash content up to and even exceeding 40 per cent. Difficulties are only experienced when the fuel as a whole is of an exceedingly caking nature, and, as a rule, these can be overcome by judicious combinations of available fuels. In firing boilers by producer-gas, it will be necessary to gasify considerably greater weight of fuel per unit evaporation than if the boilers were directly fired; for, of course, one has to provide for both boiler and producer inefficiencies, and at the same time in many cases (where exhaust steam cannot be obtained) to provide extra steam for blast to the producers and for driving auxiliary machinery. The excess weight of coal may be anything from 20 to 40 per cent, of that required for direct firing, depending upon local circum- stances ; but this, so far from being a disadvantage, may result in a substantial gain; for an all-important item #in large gas-producer plants is the recovery of sulphate of ammonia, which is produced in quantities far in excess of any coking system. One may safely calculate upon a yield of 701b. per ton of fuel for each 1 per cent, of nitrogen in that fuel; and as many of these waste fuels are su* stan- tially as rich in nitrogen as the better qualities, containing from 1 to 1’4 per cent., the sale price of sulphate naked at the works being now about .£13 10s. per ton (with every likelihood of increasing during coming years), it will be seen that a gross return of about 9s. per ton of fuel gasified may be relied upon. In addition to this, a considerable amount of tar of saleable quality is produced. It may be taken that sulphate of ammonia can be recovered equal in value to from 8s. to 10s. per ton of fuel gasified. The cost of gasifying 1 ton of coal is approximately 3s. 4cl. per ton, and the profit is 6s. 4d. per ton. Coaldust for Briquettes. The briquetting industry is slowly developing in this country, but, owing to an original excess supply of good coal, this venue for the dust and small coal has been little resorted to. The public attitude also has not favoured its introduction, but the depletion of existing supplies will force its consideration. As an example of the difference between the commercial relation of the German Govern- ment to the national resource, and the attitude of the British Parliament, an example of a huge colliery now in operation at Dortmund is interesting. The company was promoted by five private individuals with a very small amount of capital, but with a brain reserve. As soon as the plans and schemes and general arrangements were completed, the National Bank, after investigating the ability of the engineers concerned and the feasibility of the scheme, advanced the further necessary capital. A contract for 60 years was arranged whereby the Government take the total output of coal above a certain size, while the financing of the mine is done at an exceedingly moderate rate of interest. The only part of the output allowed to the colliery promoters and owners for disposal is the residue dust and refuse coal, which is too poor to sell in coal form. This is sufficient for the production of 500 tons of briquettes per day, and finds a very ready market. This case is no rare exception, but is typical of modern Germany. Low-temperature Distillation. The Diesel engine, the motorcar and the oil-fired ship are factors that have directed attention to available oil supplies The sales of benzol in Germany for motor-car driving and the profits that have been available from by-products at coking centres have awakened public attention to the possi- bility of securing oils suitable for all the former purposes from low-temperature distillation; and at the present moment the writer does not think that there is any develop- ment of engineering to which more attention is being paid than to low-temperature distillation and oil production. While low - temperature distillation has not yet passed definitely into history, the writer may be permitted to quote the possible utilisation of small dust coal for this purpose and to cite the calculated and, in certain cases, established results. In one method it is suggested to use highly superheated steam, and it may interest the members to note that this process is already being successfully operated by the Oldham Corporation for the recovery of oils and fat from sewage smudge. In other systems a method similar to the Del-Monte-Everett is used, where a solvent of high hydro- carbon has been suggested to wash out the oils from the residual carbon in the last stages of distillation. It is also suggested to project the dust into a retort of a similar type to the standard coke oven, using the gas of distillation after it has been cleared of oils, &c., as the conveying medium in a pneumatic system. But sufficient has been stated to give some idea of the schemes proposed, and until further developments are com- pleted it will be impossible to say which will give the finest return. It is evident, however, that recent developments have raised the economic value of dust, and the prophetic suggestion of Sir W. Ramsay that the coal may yet come from the mine in the form of a gas, or the writer might say “dust,” in the light of the boiler-stoker system already given, is but an indication of the possibilities in this much neglected product of the mine. Coaldust and its treatment is too elaborate a subject for any one section of collieries to settle; it is a question for national investigation in an actual mine with the best mining brains of the country behind it, and the co-operation of our educational centres, so that future engineers may benefit. The writer holds that the advance of German commerce in the last 30 years owes no small debt to the attention which German engineers have paid to this much-neglected national asset “ coaldust.” The Discussion. Mr. Gerrard (who had succeeded Sir Thomas Holland in the chair) said the members had heard probably the widest range over a vast field, which he had not seen approached for a long, long time. So full of interest was the paper that it almost seemed to him to be a fairy tale. Mining people had been told of the dangers of coaldust in recent years, very often indeed, but it seemed they were entirely wrong in this view, and that there was a lot of money in the dust. On the motion of Mr. Leonard Fletcher, seconded by Mr. J. Lomax, the thanks of the society were tendered to Mr. Paton for his address. Some comments on a few points were made by Mr. Hugh Hart-Davis, and Mr. Paton replied. COLLIERY CABLES , At the February meeting Mr. W. T. Anderson read a paper on “ Colliery Cables.” A copy of the paper having been sent to Mr. R. Nelson, electrical inspector of mines, Mr. Nelson sent the following comments upon the paper, which were read by the secretary (Mr. Sydney A. Smith). In reading Mr. Anderson’s paper I was very gratified to note the terms in which he was pleased to refer to the Home Office regulations governing the use of electricity in mines. It was generous of Mr. Anderson, speaking as a manufac- turer, to say that regulations which were designed primarily to secure safety appeared to him to be successful also in assisting the manufacturer by, in Mr. Anderson’s own phrase, “ the standardisation of conditions.” I have no doubt that it has been pointed out by others that the great virtue of Mr. Anderson’s paper is its practical character. With Mr. Anderson’s views in general, I should like to express close agreement. I have merely one or two remarks to offer on points of detail. Mr. Anderson, almost at the outset, recommends rubber-covered cables in these terms: “ Under normal conditions rubber (cable) is undeniably the best, both from a physical and from elec- trical points of view.” He appears to condemn its use only by reason of its first cost. Later, however, he remarks, in speaking of bitumen-covered cables, that “ these cables are, in the writer’s opinion, ... by far the most suitable for average colliery work.” I think he cannot mean that rubber-covered cables are the best for “average colliery work ”; and if so, it would be well to make this clear. If Mr. Anderson has in mind what are usually called “ tails,” then I suggest to him that “ making off or tailing cables ” are obsolete below ground in mines. He himself describes the correct procedure in that section of the paper headed “ Boxes ” and one of the dangers to be apprehended— namely, corrosion caused by leakage “ over the damp braid- ings of rubber tails,” in that section headed “Bitumen Cables.” The best sphere for rubber-covered cables, if they have one at all below ground in mines, is in connections between controllers and resistance grids. Mr. Anderson mentions the matter of the proper section of high-tension armouring where the current is transformed down at the shaft bottom or elsewhere for use in-bye. It should be remembered, as I think someone has already pointed out, that the difficulty does not occur when the neutral point in both systems is earthed. To meet an insulated neutral point—the case of the “conscientious objector” to an earthed neutral point—there is an alternative to Mr. Mr. Anderson’s suggestion—namely, to fix an earth plate or plates at the junction of the two systems and connect it, or them, in parallel with the surface earth by means of the armouring of the high-pressure cable alone, or, if the circumstances are thought to require it, in parallel with some other effective conductor. Mr. Anderson’s remarks on corrosion are interesting and, I think, very true. I would also support his recommendation to “share the total under-! ground load between two or more feeders.” I have met mine managers who claim to have “ the largest single shaft cable on earth,” but I should be ashamed of the sample of engineering which gave me that distinction, unless, indeed, there was something very abnormal in my conditions. I would not expect two old boiler plates “ thrown into a pond” to form a good earth connection. Water has an appreciable resistance, and I would therefore expect to find that two buried boiler plates would give a better result. Mr. Anderson’s last paragraph is a complete guide toproper maintenance. He promises at the outset of his paper to deal with fundamental principles and practical points in connection with colliery cables. I think it must be agreed that he succeeds very well. Mr. Gerrard said they all congratulated Mr. Ander- son on receiving such a high compliment from such a high authority as Mr. R. Nelson. Mr. Anderson then replied to comments upon his paper. He said that Mr. Hart-Davis’s plea for a copper shield under the armour of high tension shaft cables, to bring their load-carrying capacity into line with the low tension requirements below ground; was hardly feasible except in the case of lead covered cables. In the event of pit water getting inside the armour, galvanic action would probably arise. Otherwise the suggestion was distinctly sound, if only to avoid the danger set up by mechanical bonds between sheathing and an auxiliary earth wire. He agreed with Mr. Hart-Davis that sufficient attention had not been given to lighting circuits below ground, but the new rules would tend to cure that. For the rest it must be remembered that their pressure seldom exceeded medium pressure, and that falls were of very infrequent occurrence in the districts immediately round the shaft, where lightning circuits are usually run. With Mr. Ernest Long’s plea that all colliery cables should be armoured (with the exception, of course, of trailers) the writer was in entire accord. Wooden casing had been mentioned by him in his paper, but dismissed as impracticable. His remarks equally applied to the split telegraph poles mentioned by Mr. Long. Rule 12 (D) happily put this suggested method entirely out of court. It was a method which was quite opposed to the spirit of the new rules, in that it allowed to a greater extent than any other of the possibility of surroundings becoming charged up to a dangerous extent without a fault declaring itself. In vertical casing of the ordinary type or in grooved poles, unarmoured and therefore mechanically weak cables must either be a tight or a loose fit. In the former they were almost invariably damaged in the malleting in, in the latter they are unsupported—both insurmountable objections. Mr. G. S. Corlett queried the advisability of using bitumen cables for extra high pressures in shafts, but he (Mr. Anderson) had no hesitation in saying that for normal conditions, with the exception, of course, of rubber cables, which were not feasible on account of cost, bitumen cables without hygroscopic material of any kind in their internal construction were the best* He was inclined to agree with Mr. Corlett in his remarks that it was not (electrically) necessary to increase the high tension armour as an earth connection to a low tension system below ground, and realised that an earth on the low tension might not affect the armouring of the high tension system, but would probably be confined to the underground portion of the installation. For systems in which the neutral point is unearthed. Mr. Nelson had, in his contribution to the discussion, suggested a method which was both practical and economical. The writer could not agree with Mr. Bolton Shaw that the clamp method of single suspension was good for paper lead covered or for any other type of cable and under no circumstances would he recommend its use. As regards hydraulic pressure being set up at the bottom of paper cables, this could not occur in cables the insulation of which was impregnated layer by layer and not in bulk. The writer had purposely refrained from any mention of aluminium for mining work, as he considered its use impracticable. The greatly increased weight of the metallic sheathing necessary to cover the enlarged conductors would far outweigh any gain in the weight of the conductors enclosed, and it was mere waste of time to discuss the merits of unarmoured cables. If size and weight had already not ruled this metal out of the question the cost would certainly do so, as at present day prices for insulated conductors, copper worked out the cheaper of the two. Indeed, the only form—load for load—in which aluminium could be ; considered from motives of economy, would be in ' the case of bare overhead lines. Regarding wood impregnation, happily white ants had not to be catered for in the treatment of wood for preservation in this country, and for pit conditions of exposure to air and moisture the writer could not imagine a finer pre- servative than creosote. Mr. S. H. Lee suggested that three locomotives (two I to lower and one as a standby) used to instal a six-ton cable were far from necessary. With this the writer could not agree. The stresses and safety factors to be catered for were impossible to gauge by ordinary calcu- lation. Mr. Lee’s plea for a recessed groove for cables in shafts was not likely to meet with support. Its cost would certainly not be justified. In his paper he had endeavoured to treat the various classes of cables upcn their merits. With regard to bare rubber sheathed trailing cables, he was inclined to think that though ; their initial cost was great, they had a great future before them. As regards the ready smothering of an arc in this class of cable, mentioned by Mr. Lee, this was simply a matter of the quantity or the radial thick- ness of material. It was not even essential that the material should be airtight, so that, for instance, a thick padding of fibrous material might be equally efficacious. To thread long lengths of cable behind the timbering of